Reply With QuoteAnti-Party (09-02-2013), tekkychick (09-02-2013)
Truthmatters
Prove the US is lying about who used the chemical weapons on whom
give me some damned proof instead of nothing but bullshit.
PROOF!!!!!!!!
Anti-Party (09-02-2013), tekkychick (09-02-2013)
Truthmatters
the right IGNORED all the evidence that Bush presented was utter bullshit.
Now you think you can PROOVE Obama is lying about the intell.
give some god damned proof of your claims as your record is REALLY shitty when it comes to facts.
tekkychick (09-02-2013)
Truthmatters
give me some fucking proof
all you people have been saying it now for days.
PRODUCE some evidence or shut the fuck up
The Force is With Me
Unfortunately for you good sister, it is OBAMA who has to do the proving, not republicans, not the American people.
NO ONE should just trust him.
If his evidence is unconvincing .. end of story
AMERICAN HISTORY ITSELF IS A TESTAMENT TO THE STRENGTH AND RESILIENCE OF AFRICAN PEOPLE. WE, ALONG WITH THE COURGE AND SACRIFICES OF CONSCIOUS WHITE AMERICANS, LIKE VIOLA LIUZZO, EVERETT DIRKSEN, AND MANY OTHERS, HAVE FOUGHT AND DIED TOGETHER FOR OUR FREEDOM, AND FOR OUR SURVIVAL.
In America, rights are are not determined by what is just, fair, equitable, honest, nor by what Jesus would do. Rights are determined ONLY by what you can DEMAND.
Truthmatters
I PROVED Bush was lying with facts.
they ignored those facts and some still do.
EVIDENCE
give me some evidence Obama is lying
blackascoal (09-02-2013)
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Obama conducts the Bush foreign policy to the letter.Originally Posted by evince
I repeat, it is OBAMA who has to do the proving.
Why should anyone trust a known liar and pawn of the MIC?
AMERICAN HISTORY ITSELF IS A TESTAMENT TO THE STRENGTH AND RESILIENCE OF AFRICAN PEOPLE. WE, ALONG WITH THE COURGE AND SACRIFICES OF CONSCIOUS WHITE AMERICANS, LIKE VIOLA LIUZZO, EVERETT DIRKSEN, AND MANY OTHERS, HAVE FOUGHT AND DIED TOGETHER FOR OUR FREEDOM, AND FOR OUR SURVIVAL.
In America, rights are are not determined by what is just, fair, equitable, honest, nor by what Jesus would do. Rights are determined ONLY by what you can DEMAND.
Truthmatters
I have seen NOTHING to prove what keeps being claimed by some on all sides.
Bring me the "facts" you people are using to stand against protecting a population from being gassed by their tyrant leader.
Truthmatters
Obama is conducting American foreign policy.
Bush did too.
Bush just lied about the facts to all of us.
Now I have proof of those lies is WHY I hated Bush.
Give me fucking proof
Truthmatters
No slick banter
No bullshit
No hate
FACTS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Here are the facts .. the US is a warmongering nation .. proved beyond all reasonable doubt. THUS, it is incumbent on Obama to make the case for war.
Fact 2 .. Obama attacked and destroyed Libya based on false information.
Fact 3 .. Obama supports Al Qaida.
Why do you ignore those truths?
Why are you so in support of the MIC .. the exact same entity that brought us the tragedy of Iraq.
Why are you so supportive of Al Qaida?
AMERICAN HISTORY ITSELF IS A TESTAMENT TO THE STRENGTH AND RESILIENCE OF AFRICAN PEOPLE. WE, ALONG WITH THE COURGE AND SACRIFICES OF CONSCIOUS WHITE AMERICANS, LIKE VIOLA LIUZZO, EVERETT DIRKSEN, AND MANY OTHERS, HAVE FOUGHT AND DIED TOGETHER FOR OUR FREEDOM, AND FOR OUR SURVIVAL.
In America, rights are are not determined by what is just, fair, equitable, honest, nor by what Jesus would do. Rights are determined ONLY by what you can DEMAND.
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With Iraq's WMDs - it just didn't make sense. Our own inspectors didn't find any.
With Syria/chem weapons - we have pics of rockets leaving govt space and landing in rebel space and we have people who have been proven through blood tests to have had chem weapons used on them.
Could the rebels have done the chem weapons and timed it with the rockets? possible, but Occam's Razor would say Assad did it.
Is it good to question the evidence? Sure. Govts lie. But Obama hasn't been the type to lie in the past, so I give him the benefit of the doubt. Of course, it's possible they are misinterpreting the evidence. But Obama doesn't want to bomb Syria, so he doesn't have a bias to find the evidence true.
This is very different from Iraq where Bush/cheney were looking for any excuse to go to war with them.
I hope Congress examines the evidence closely. I don't think anyone on this message board has access to the same level of info as those in intelligence. And if they did, they couldn't speak about it.
anatta (09-02-2013), blackascoal (09-02-2013)
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Prove the Syrian government guilty, Desh. Right now all we have is some teleprompter reader telling us that he's pretty darned sure. We don't convict people in the US by that standard now, do we?
Some advice to the Teleprompter Reader in Chief: When accusing another nation of something, it is you who has to prove it.
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BAC, I highly respect you; but we did NOT have false info for Lybia, Obama does NOT support Al Quaeda.
Yes, US is warmongering - but Obama has been the one reluctant to go to war, unlike the neocons.
cancel2 2022 (09-02-2013), evince (09-02-2013)
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Respectfully, Obama conducts the Bush foreign policy to the letter. He had the same reasons to attack Libya that Bush had to attack Iraq .. using the same tactics and false rational. He has the same reasons to attack Syria that Bush had to attack Iraq.
I say again, Obama attacked and destroyed Libya based on a pack of lies .. which put the world on notice that he isn't a damn bit different than George Bush.
The entire planet is unconvinced by this administration .. and everyone knows the real target is Iran.
AMERICAN HISTORY ITSELF IS A TESTAMENT TO THE STRENGTH AND RESILIENCE OF AFRICAN PEOPLE. WE, ALONG WITH THE COURGE AND SACRIFICES OF CONSCIOUS WHITE AMERICANS, LIKE VIOLA LIUZZO, EVERETT DIRKSEN, AND MANY OTHERS, HAVE FOUGHT AND DIED TOGETHER FOR OUR FREEDOM, AND FOR OUR SURVIVAL.
In America, rights are are not determined by what is just, fair, equitable, honest, nor by what Jesus would do. Rights are determined ONLY by what you can DEMAND.
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who the FUCK cares??? This isn't about "proving chem weapons" - it's about the US response. 106k + ALREADY KILLED -no end in sight.
So why does the extreme limited use of chem weapons necessarily draw in the US????
It's horrible, but the so are the 104K deaths. This is a KILLING ZONE - stay the hell out.
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