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    Does America have a better Human rights record then China this century? (These past 13 years, 21st century.) America has invaded Iraq and Afghanistan and committed all kinds of unspeakable evil. We killed thousands of people in those countries. Many only cared about their own country and had no interest in America what soever. We also took out Gaddafi and ruined the lives of over 5 million people in a country of only 6.5 million. The United States launches drone strikes all over the world and constantly kills innocent people. We also spy on everyone in the world. The United States has no respect for the citizens of other countries. We may have a good internal record but our external record is terrible. Also other countries have no international obligation to have the same internal standards as us. The United States like every other country is obligated to have a higher standard while occupying a foreign country then it does when dealing with domestic threats when regarding to international law. Its one thing to kill your own citizens but it is actually worst the kill people in other countries. National boundaries imply that the citizens of that country are off limits to another country. When you kill a human you are still killing a human. America may be really strong on national security but that also makes us bad when it comes to human rights. America

    China has not invaded another country. They have not killed as many people as America. The Tibetans are Chinese citizens and so is everyone else in China. People advocating democracy are technically calling for the over throw of the government. China also deals with separatists and Islamic extremists. Democracy advocates are often placed in jail or put under house arrest. The French Revolutionaries were democracy advocats and they liked cutting off heads. 100,000 people in the Paris area we sent the guillotine and others were shot across France, a French city was seized and then burned to the ground. Just because someone advocates democracy does not make them a good person.

    America wasn't very harsh to American communists during the cold war because they were never a serious threat to the government. We did spy on the communists and black listed people in Hollywood. We were prepared to do much more if they ever became truly dangerous. America would react to any group that threatened to destroy the government in ways similar to China. The government is currently stock piling ammunition because it fears a Tea Party insurgency. If Right Wing extremists did launch an attack on our government would are government not over react.

    Are government has not accomplished anything this century will China has accomplished a lot. They have more then doubled their economy, their infrastructure is becoming better the America's, their standard of living is up and so is education and life expectancy. China's economy is the second largest in the world and will eventually over take us. America's life expectancy has flat lined, are education system has gotten worst, are health care has gotten worst, are economy only grows at 2% while China grows at 7.5%. America's debt is over 100% of GDP. China's average wages rapidly rise while America's decline.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Reverend Bones View Post
    Does America have a better Human rights record then China this century? (These past 13 years, 21st century.) America has invaded Iraq and Afghanistan and committed all kinds of unspeakable evil. We killed thousands of people in those countries. Many only cared about their own country and had no interest in America what soever. We also took out Gaddafi and ruined the lives of over 5 million people in a country of only 6.5 million. The United States launches drone strikes all over the world and constantly kills innocent people. We also spy on everyone in the world. The United States has no respect for the citizens of other countries. We may have a good internal record but our external record is terrible. Also other countries have no international obligation to have the same internal standards as us. The United States like every other country is obligated to have a higher standard while occupying a foreign country then it does when dealing with domestic threats when regarding to international law. Its one thing to kill your own citizens but it is actually worst the kill people in other countries. National boundaries imply that the citizens of that country are off limits to another country. When you kill a human you are still killing a human. America may be really strong on national security but that also makes us bad when it comes to human rights. America

    China has not invaded another country. They have not killed as many people as America. The Tibetans are Chinese citizens and so is everyone else in China. People advocating democracy are technically calling for the over throw of the government. China also deals with separatists and Islamic extremists. Democracy advocates are often placed in jail or put under house arrest. The French Revolutionaries were democracy advocats and they liked cutting off heads. 100,000 people in the Paris area we sent the guillotine and others were shot across France, a French city was seized and then burned to the ground. Just because someone advocates democracy does not make them a good person.

    America wasn't very harsh to American communists during the cold war because they were never a serious threat to the government. We did spy on the communists and black listed people in Hollywood. We were prepared to do much more if they ever became truly dangerous. America would react to any group that threatened to destroy the government in ways similar to China. The government is currently stock piling ammunition because it fears a Tea Party insurgency. If Right Wing extremists did launch an attack on our government would are government not over react.

    Are government has not accomplished anything this century will China has accomplished a lot. They have more then doubled their economy, their infrastructure is becoming better the America's, their standard of living is up and so is education and life expectancy. China's economy is the second largest in the world and will eventually over take us. America's life expectancy has flat lined, are education system has gotten worst, are health care has gotten worst, are economy only grows at 2% while China grows at 7.5%. America's debt is over 100% of GDP. China's average wages rapidly rise while America's decline.
    You're full of shit.
    Go ask a Tibetan if they're Chinese.
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    Quote Originally Posted by USFREEDOM911 View Post
    You're full of shit.
    Go ask a Tibetan if they're Chinese.
    They are Chinese citizens. Not every American values their citizenship. Tibet has been part of China for a very long time. China lost control of Tibet in 1900 and retook it in 1950. Tibet was part of China well before the Louisiana purchase. Ask the Iraqi's or the Libyans if there happy. America kills people all over the world. America constantly kills innocent people. We have killed more innocent people then China has in the past 13 years.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Reverend Bones View Post
    They are Chinese citizens. Not every American values their citizenship. Tibet has been part of China for a very long time. China lost control of Tibet in 1900 and retook it in 1950. Tibet was part of China well before the Louisiana purchase. Ask the Iraqi's or the Libyans if there happy. America kills people all over the world. America constantly kills innocent people. We have killed more innocent people then China has in the past 13 years.
    Key word there was "was".

    Parts of Europe were at one time the property of someone other then who is there now.
    You've admitted that they lost control in 1900; ergo: no longer part of China.

    Does France still have a claim on Mexico, since it "was" part of areas that the French controlled.
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    Quote Originally Posted by USFREEDOM911 View Post
    Key word there was "was".

    Parts of Europe were at one time the property of someone other then who is there now.
    You've admitted that they lost control in 1900; ergo: no longer part of China.

    Does France still have a claim on Mexico, since it "was" part of areas that the French controlled.
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    The central government lost control of many parts of China. China became dominated by warlords. China had a revolution in 1911. Tibet never gained independence. America during WW2 recognized Tibet as being part of China. Chiang Kai-Shek intended to regain control of Tibet. Mao won the civil war so he retook control of Tibet. If the nationalists had won they would have retaken Tibet. America recognized the borders of Chiang kai-Shek empire which included Tibet and the entire far west. The exact borders were never recognized which is why China has border disputes but in general America and the U.N recognized China's borders. France never actually claimed Mexico they were merely allied with the emperor of Mexico. So that was a bad example. European countries were always forced to recognize lost territory. China merely withdrew its troops and bureaucrats but never recognized any independence and neither did any other country. Tibet was never an independent country.
    America forced everyone to assimilate. We asked people to get over their ethnic identities and used force when necessary. America did what was necessary to take the west and to retake the South. The vast majority of Tibetans were born in the People's Republic of China. The South West was taken from Mexico and everyone was forced to become an American. 60 years later the entire region was fully American.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Reverend Bones View Post
    The central government lost control of many parts of China. China became dominated by warlords. China had a revolution in 1911. Tibet never gained independence. America during WW2 recognized Tibet as being part of China. Chiang Kai-Shek intended to regain control of Tibet. Mao won the civil war so he retook control of Tibet. If the nationalists had won they would have retaken Tibet. America recognized the borders of Chiang kai-Shek empire which included Tibet and the entire far west. The exact borders were never recognized which is why China has border disputes but in general America and the U.N recognized China's borders. France never actually claimed Mexico they were merely allied with the emperor of Mexico. So that was a bad example. European countries were always forced to recognize lost territory. China merely withdrew its troops and bureaucrats but never recognized any independence and neither did any other country. Tibet was never an independent country.
    America forced everyone to assimilate. We asked people to get over their ethnic identities and used force when necessary. America did what was necessary to take the west and to retake the South. The vast majority of Tibetans were born in the People's Republic of China. The South West was taken from Mexico and everyone was forced to become an American. 60 years later the entire region was fully American.
    And yet, you continue to recognize the meaning of the word "WAS"; ie: as in used to be, but is no longer.
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    Good thread Reverand. Thankyou.

    Someone has to speak the truth about American genocide, which has continued under Obama.
    It is the responsibility of every American citizen to own a modern military rifle.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rune View Post
    Good thread Reverand. Thankyou.

    Someone has to speak the truth about American genocide, which has continued under Obama.
    That's because the president has very little to do with it.
    MIC FTW

    Stop blaming the puppets.

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    Which is exactly why he's going into the mental trash can.
    He doesn't want to discusss, he just wants to bitch and moan and he doesn't need input to do that.
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    Quote Originally Posted by tinfoil View Post
    That's because the president has very little to do with it.
    MIC FTW

    Stop blaming the puppets.
    The President has more power then any other American. He doesn't even have to seek reelection anymore. His power is equal to Congress. He controls the government agencies and departments. He can find out anything about anyone. He can do things by executive order. He may be a servant with too many masters but he also can do whatever he wants. It is difficult to control a president. Presidents have advantages. They can be manipulated and lied to but they do have real power. That is why people try to control presidents because they do have real power. They can choose to exercise real power or have others do it for them. Obama does what he wants.

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