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    Default Chris Christie Goes After Libertarians on Foreign Policy

    Another one of those issues where politics makes for strange bedfellows.


    Christie goes after libertarians — hard

    New Jersey Gov. Chris Christie (R) on Thursday offered a clear broadside against Republicans drifting toward a more libertarian view of foreign policy, lumping Sen. Rand Paul (R-Ky.) in with them and suggesting they explain their position to victims of the Sept. 11, 2001, attacks.

    The House earlier this week narrowly voted against a reduction in funding for the National Security Agency, as libertarian-leaning members from both sides joined together to vote for the amendment.

    “As a former prosecutor who was appointed by President George W. Bush on Sept. 10, 2001, I just want us to be really cautious, because this strain of libertarianism that’s going through both parties right now and making big headlines, I think, is a very dangerous thought,” Christie said.

    Asked whether he includes Paul — a fellow potential 2016 presidential candidate — in his criticism, Christie didn’t back down.

    “You can name any one of them that’s engaged in this,” he said. “I want them to come to New Jersey and sit across from the widows and the orphans and have that conversation. … I’m very nervous about the direction this is moving in.”

    Christie acknowledged that there will always be mistakes when it comes to national security and protecting privacy, but said Americans need to stay focused on what’s at stake.

    He dismissed some of the current privacy/national security debates as “esoteric.”

    “I think what we as a country have to decide is: Do we have amnesia? Because I don’t,” he said. “And I remember what we felt like on Sept. 12, 2001.”

    Christie also praised the national security strategies of both President Obama and George W. Bush.

    “I want to say that I think both the way President Bush conducted himself and the way President Obama has conducted himself in the main on those types of decisions hasn’t been different because they were right and because we haven’t had another one of those attacks that cost thousands and thousands of lives,” Christie said.

    Christie appeared alongside Wisconsin Gov. Scott Walker (R), Louisiana Gov. Bobby Jindal (R) and Indiana Gov. Mike Pence (R). The four GOP governors appeared side-by-side at a session hosted by the nonpartisan Aspen Institute.

    The four of them are all considered among the GOP’s top potential presidential candidates in 2016, with each of them ranking on The Fix’s most recent list of the top 10 likeliest nominees.

    The Republican Governors Association was holding its summer meeting in the mountainous resort town.

    North Carolina Gov. Pat McCrory (R), who was slated to appear, had to stay in his home state with the state legislature moving on legislation — including new abortion restrictions.


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    Fuck that asshole. Another reason to give NJ back to England.
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    I feel like he's the one with amnesia. Do people not remember that actions have consequences? How many of these muslim countries have hard ons for Japan, or South Korea, or Ireland?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Disillusioned View Post
    I feel like he's the one with amnesia. Do people not remember that actions have consequences? How many of these muslim countries have hard ons for Japan, or South Korea, or Ireland?
    As a disclaimer....I am not in any, way, shape, or form an anti- Semitic person. They are our allies in the region....

    However, we can't keep letting Israel encroach upon Palestinian land with impunity. This is one of the biggest issues in the entire region...it fuels the hatred in the ME more than anything else... towards Israel itself and the US...and we are the ones who foot the bill for most of it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Steelplate View Post
    As a disclaimer....I am not in any, way, shape, or form an anti- Semitic person. They are our allies in the region....

    However, we can't keep letting Israel encroach upon Palestinian land with impunity. This is one of the biggest issues in the entire region...it fuels the hatred in the ME more than anything else... towards Israel itself and the US...and we are the ones who foot the bill for most of it.
    Holocaust denier.

    Seriously though, fuck Israel. They're a big boy country, they can handle their problems by themselves.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Steelplate View Post
    As a disclaimer....I am not in any, way, shape, or form an anti- Semitic person. They are our allies in the region....

    However, we can't keep letting Israel encroach upon Palestinian land with impunity. This is one of the biggest issues in the entire region...it fuels the hatred in the ME more than anything else... towards Israel itself and the US...and we are the ones who foot the bill for most of it.
    I feel like Israel is our ally because we foot their bill and for pretty much no other reason. We seem to have very little common ground beyond thinking that anyone we label as terrorist gets zero rights.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Attila the Hun View Post
    Fuck that asshole. Another reason to give NJ back to England.
    What? And lose all those superfund sites?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Disillusioned View Post
    I feel like Israel is our ally because we foot their bill and for pretty much no other reason. We seem to have very little common ground beyond thinking that anyone we label as terrorist gets zero rights.
    That's too complicated for the average Republican primary voter.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Attila the Hun View Post
    Fuck that asshole. Another reason to give NJ back to England.
    He made some excellent points. Particularly about how the libertarian efforts to rape food stamps and other benefits for the poor will come back and bite them in their privileged asses.

    Quote Originally Posted by Steelplate View Post
    As a disclaimer....I am not in any, way, shape, or form an anti- Semitic person. They are our allies in the region....

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    That is the modus operandi of the neocon government currently in office. The majority of Israeli's just want to be left alone and leave the Palestinians alone.

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    Christie exposes himself as an establishment authoritarian and all howey can do is call Libertarians 'neocons'. the world is truly fucked because of the statists.
    A sad commentary on we, as a people, and our viewpoint of our freedom can be summed up like this. We have liberals and conservatives, Democrats and Republicans, yet those very people look at Constitutionalists as radical and extreme.................so those liberals and conservatives, Democrats and Republicans must believe that the constitution is radical and extreme.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SmarterthanYou View Post
    Christie exposes himself as an establishment authoritarian and all howey can do is call Libertarians 'neocons'. the world is truly fucked because of the statists.
    I did? Where?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Howey View Post
    He made some excellent points. Particularly about how the libertarian efforts to rape food stamps and other benefits for the poor will come back and bite them in their privileged asses.



    That is the modus operandi of the neocon government currently in office. The majority of Israeli's just want to be left alone and leave the Palestinians alone.
    Are you calling Obama specifically a neo-con or others around him in his administration?

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    Quote Originally Posted by cawacko View Post
    Are you calling Obama specifically a neo-con or others around him in his administration?
    ...the neocon government in Israel...sheesh.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Howey View Post
    ...the neocon government in Israel...sheesh.
    Eh, my bad.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Attila the Hun View Post
    Fuck that asshole. Another reason to give NJ back to England.
    how the right sees this country.


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