View Poll Results: What should we do with "Groans?"

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  • KEEP The Groans

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  • GET RID OF The Groans

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  • I don't care either way.

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Thread: Should we get rid of Groans? Vote Now

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    Default Should we get rid of Groans? Vote Now

    A lot of people have started to complain about groans and getting groan-spammed etc.

    So we have decided to put this to a vote.

    Note: we are talking about JUST groans. We will be keeping "thanks"

    Here are the pros and cons as far as I see it.

    Pros:

    • Sometimes someone says something really stupid. It's very convenient to basically dismiss ones argument without having to bother responding to a mouth breather


    • Some people actually deserve being groaned for their idiotic opinions.


    • Sometimes Groans can be used for humor. I.E. watermark says something really optimistic and inspiring and I groan him.


    Cons:

    • People abuse the groan feature, and will mass groan the shit out of people, even without reading peoples posts
    • People are less likely to go out of their way to "mass thank" someone, as no one wants to be that positive.
    • It clogs up peoples notification inbox as it will bump thanks to the background

    Here is how the voting will work.

    Voting will only be open to regular active members. We aren't going to let people that barely post here to make decisions about JPP.

    Here is the approved list of voters:

    • annie
    • aoxomoxoa
    • BAC
    • beefy
    • bfgrn
    • billy
    • boris the animal
    • callinectes
    • cawacko
    • charver
    • christiefan
    • classic liberal
    • crashk
    • damo
    • darla
    • disillusioned
    • don quixote
    • dungheap
    • evince
    • Grind
    • howey
    • I love america
    • iolo
    • leaningright
    • jarod
    • mott
    • nova
    • obfuscate
    • philly rabbit
    • postmodernprofit
    • professor baxter
    • racerx
    • rana
    • rationalist <-- Brent
    • rune
    • sedan
    • signalman
    • socratease
    • sjjrsjjs
    • smarterthanyou
    • steelplate
    • superfreak
    • susiecutzpah
    • taichiliberal
    • tekkychick
    • thing1
    • threedee
    • tinfoil
    • usfreedom
    • watermark
    • winterborn
    • yurt
    • zappasguitar


    Some peoples "standard" name might have been used, so just check.

    I went first through the people that have visited in the last 24 hours, and then added that together with all the top posters going down to people that have made around > 100 posts.

    Soooooo chances are if you are not on this list you aren't very active here, or you are very new. There is easily a chance I missed someone, so if you think you should be counted just shoot me a pm.

    1. Anyone not on this masterlist will not have their vote counted.
    2. Trolls and duplicates will obviously have their vote thrown away. If you try double voting both your votes will be thrown out.
    3. Tie goes to keeping it.
    4. Need at least 20 votes to be valid. (this shouldn't be hard because again this list if of pretty active users. So spam your buddies walls and get them to vote).
    Last edited by bluedream; 07-20-2013 at 12:45 AM.
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    also I am not trying to be douchey by putting something like this to a vote, but a few people have complained, and I don't really want to stirp a feature if most people actually like it or dont mind it.
    Biography:

    Grind is one of the internets most beloved and influential political thinkers and deep-level theorists in the modern era. He rose to prominence in early 2015 when he alleged, contrary to the dominant theory of christiefanism of the time, that Bill Clintons wife was indeed running for president and wasn't considering settling down to be a grandmother. In 2016, Grind was one of the key figures in proposing the new revolutionary theory of "30% is not a rare occurrence" which shook up the JPP political landscape like no other theory ever had before. His academic prowess, deep-level analysis and remarkable insight into human nature and psychology will undoubtedly result in further complexities being untangled and laid bare. He currently resides in boston, his hobbies include #rekking libs, vaping, and patriotism. You can find him in a thread near you.

    Testimonials about my patented system:

    Quote Originally Posted by Mott the Hoople View Post
    Grind is basically right
    Quote Originally Posted by Phantasmal View Post
    Grindís got you beat by miles. He is very intelligent.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TeamZ View Post
    A lot of people have started to complain about groans and getting groan-spammed etc.

    So we have decided to put this to a vote.

    Note: we are talking about JUST groans. We will be keeping "thanks"



    Here are the pros and cons as far as I see it.

    Pros:

    • Sometimes someone says something really stupid. It's very convenient to basically dismiss ones argument without having to bother responding to a mouth breather


    • Some people actually deserve being groaned for their idiotic opinions.


    • Sometimes Groans can be used for humor. I.E. watermark says something really optimistic and inspiring and I groan him.


    Cons:

    • People abuse the groan feature, and will mass groan the shit out of people, even without reading peoples posts
    • People are less likely to go out of their way to "mass thank" someone, as no one wants to be that positive.
    • It clogs up peoples notification inbox as it will bump thanks to the background

    Here is how the voting will work.

    Voting will only be open to regular active members. We aren't going to let people that barely post here to make decisions about JPP.

    Here is the approved list of voters:

    • annie
    • aoxomoxoa
    • BAC
    • beefy
    • bfgrn
    • billy
    • boris the animal
    • callinectes
    • cawacko
    • charver
    • christiefan
    • classic liberal
    • crashk
    • damo
    • darla
    • disillusioned
    • don quixote
    • dungheap
    • evince
    • Grind
    • howey
    • I love america
    • iolo
    • leaningright
    • jarod
    • mott
    • nova
    • obfuscate
    • philly rabbit
    • postmodernprofit
    • professor baxter
    • racerx
    • rana
    • rationalist <-- Brent
    • rune
    • sedan
    • signalman
    • socratease
    • sjjrsjjs
    • smarterthanyou
    • steelplate
    • superfreak
    • susiecutzpah
    • taichiliberal
    • tekkychick
    • thing1
    • threedee
    • tinfoil
    • usfreedom
    • watermark
    • winterborn
    • yurt
    • zappasguitar


    Some peoples "standard" name might have been used, so just check.

    I went first through the people that have visited in the last 24 hours, and then added that together with all the top posters going down to people that have made around > 100 posts.

    Soooooo chances are if you are not on this list you aren't very active here, or you are very new. There is easily a chance I missed someone, so if you think you should be counted just shoot me a pm.

    1. Anyone not on this masterlist will not have their vote counted.
    2. Trolls and duplicates will obviously have their vote thrown away. If you try double voting both your votes will be thrown out.
    3. Tie goes to keeping it.
    4. Need at least 20 votes to be valid. (this shouldn't be hard because again this list if of pretty active users. So spam your buddies walls and get them to vote).
    I say keep them; because it gives posters like Rune, Topper/The Dude, etc something to do, besides roaming the streets and begging for spare change.
    Plus reading all of Desh's comments about "bricks" was funny.

    Pascal argues that a rational person should live as though God exists and seek to believe in God. If God does not actually exist, such a person will have only a finite loss, whereas they stand to receive infinite gains and avoid infinite losses.

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    Since I don't see any rule against commenting I'll throw in my two cents. While there are times where people will auto groan eachother, that's generally their loss as their groans get less and less impactful on what others think. And occasionally there are times where there are no words to express your disgust with a post. Keep em on. If people groan too much, eventually others just stop caring when they do.
    "In the bath tub of history the truth is harder to find than the soap and more difficult to hold on to."

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    It's not the cops fault that the douchebag is a fraud.

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    normally i do not care, however, some posters abuse the feature so i either put them on ignore or will be banning from my threads
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    seeings how I have never "groaned" anyone ever I would not miss them.


    the groan spaming does keep the infants happy and that is something.

    pressed to give a vote one way or the other I would say get rid of them.

    some seem to use the groan feature instead of actually telling you WHAT about your post they disagree with and why.


    its shorthand instead of discussion.


    the thanks feature is handy and I actually don't use it enough.

    I get to talking and forget to click the little button on many many a post.

    too much groaning by some is dangerous for their health.

    they may give themselves a hernia.

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    I have a groan-groaned ratio of like 4-1. I suppose I'm just an asshole.

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    well there is always that possibility

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    here is a thought.

    if you can separate them out then maybe everyone can have a limmited supply of them.

    then they would have to really think if their groans were worth giving or not.

    a certain amount each time frame

    a day

    a week

    a month


    what ever.

    I would hope no limits on the thanks though.

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    but dude I was planning on making a bundle selling my groans to people damn

    how about if I give you a slice of the profits ?

    will you ungroan me.

    Oh yeah they are not worth money YET.

    nevermind

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    I am making this post in order to groan it.
    "Do not think that I came to bring peace... I did not come to bring peace, but a sword." - Matthew 10:34

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    Goddamnit, you can't groan your own post. I am foiled.
    "Do not think that I came to bring peace... I did not come to bring peace, but a sword." - Matthew 10:34

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    that would be awesome

    I once started a thread and banned only myself

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    that is the only time I ever used that feature

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    Imagine if you then owned the groans people gave to you and then you could turn and sell them to the people who need more groans than their allotment.

    damn this could get really profitable

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