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    Default The Tesla hype

    Much was made a here a week or so ago about the wonders of Tesla and how it was a "beacon" of gobblement perfection and its ONE quarter of profitability. Well, someone did some digging into their numbers and VOILA, as I suspected, it is all fucking hype.

    http://beta.fool.com/jjt218/2013/06/...=TheMotleyFool


    http://finance.yahoo.com/news/teslas...103000123.html.


    http://money.cnn.com/2013/05/21/news...all/index.html

    Now I know the pie in the sky fools who have a hard on for "electric engines" will stick their noses in the air and scoff at such foolishness, but numbers don't lie. Suffice it to say, selling these credits is not a model for future success in the auto business. Or maybe it is. Maybe their entire model is to lose money on cars but sell the credits to everyone else.

    If you think about it, it would be genius and once again show the folly of gobblement intervention with these bogus CAFE standards. Tesla takes taxpayer money to presumably make electric cars. They don't make any other types of cars so they are swimming in the ZEV (look it up if you don't know). All of its competitors like Nissan and GM make other models besides electric cars so it will be a challenge for them to meet the gobblement regulations while still making a car people want to buy. Enter the selling of the ZEV. Tesla makes money and everyone meets their gobblement quota. Genius.

    But alas this too will not last.
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    The advances in battery life alone will keep Tesla moving ahead. They are not swimming in profits? Really? A $75k car with no brand recognition isn't selling in our robust economy?? Say it ain't so!

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    Quote Originally Posted by WinterBorn View Post
    The advances in battery life alone will keep Tesla moving ahead. They are not swimming in profits? Really? A $75k car with no brand recognition isn't selling in our robust economy?? Say it ain't so!
    I know you are so in love with the technology you won't look at the facts on the ground. The truth of the matter is that the cars themselves are not profitable. The truth of the matter is that folks like you masturbated all over the board. But, as always when you dig a little deeper you see that it is one big fraud.

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    What I guess I like best about the final, conclusive and uncontrovertible capital "t" Truth that Tesla is a big fraud is that it comes from an investment advice webiste that currently recommends Tesla to its readership.

    LOLerpops.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dungheap View Post
    What I guess I like best about the final, conclusive and uncontrovertible capital "t" Truth that Tesla is a big fraud is that it comes from an investment advice webiste that currently recommends Tesla to its readership.

    LOLerpops.
    I understand if you don't understand what you didn't read.

    BTW, I posted three separate links from three separate sites

    PWND

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    Quote Originally Posted by I Love America View Post
    I understand if you don't understand what you didn't read.

    BTW, I posted three separate links from three separate sites

    PWND

    Yes...


    You got PWNED BIGTIME!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by ZappasGuitar View Post
    Yes...


    You got PWNED BIGTIME!!
    Only in your imagination. Unless of course you are saying that their profitability came from selling cars (not) and not from selling ZEVs (did).

    Feel free to dig into their annual report and prove it wrong. Otherwise accept your bitchslapping like a man. I see nobody else has tried to refute it. The closest was Winterborns lame attempt about "batteries blah blah blah"

    I win again

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    Selling pollution credits to other manufacturers is nothing new. Profit is profit, regadless of the product sold. Your argument is imaginary outrage at a non existant issue, but then so are most of your other threads.

    The other thing you seem blind to is that Tesla is in it's infancy. How many firms are instanly profitable, especially new and unknown tech?

    How long did Amazon. com lose money, moron, and for how long did you predict their doom?

    By the way, don't bother to answer this post.

    I don't give a shit about refuting your lies more than once per thread.
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    Quote Originally Posted by I Love America View Post
    Only in your imagination. Unless of course you are saying that their profitability came from selling cars (not) and not from selling ZEVs (did).

    Feel free to dig into their annual report and prove it wrong. Otherwise accept your bitchslapping like a man. I see nobody else has tried to refute it. The closest was Winterborns lame attempt about "batteries blah blah blah"

    I win again
    The only thing you won is the shit you just took in your hand instead of the restroom. Keep proving yourself a moron, your reputation grows by leaps and bounds.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rune View Post
    Selling pollution credits to other manufacturers is nothing new. Profit is profit, regadless of the product sold. Your argument is imaginary outrage at a non existant issue, but then so are most of your other threads.

    The other thing you seem blind to is that Tesla is in it's infancy. How many firms are instanly profitable, especially new and unknown tech?

    How long did Amazon. com lose money, moron, and for how long did you predict their doom?

    By the way, don't bother to answer this post.

    I don't give a shit about refuting your lies more than once per thread.
    Sorry but you don't dictate what I respond to.

    You like other nimrods seem to be very adept at arguing things I didn't claim. I didn't claim that selling the credits is "new".

    The entire point which apparently is lost on you was that Tesla is not this stunning success of selling electric cars. Now I could point you to the threads that hyped this after they posted earnings. The point was that there is more to the story. It was being passed off as if their so called "success story" was 100% due to selling cars. As I showed that is not the case. As the articles point out selling those credits are not sustainable. Ask Enron.

    As for your Amazon non sequitur, it is irrelevant because Amazon wasn't relying on taxpayer dollars the way Tesla did.


    Now kindly go fuck yourself. With all due respect of course

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    Don't these things just cause pollution somewhere else? That is, unless the electricity is made from Nuke power, which liberals despise.
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    Quote Originally Posted by I Love America View Post
    Sorry but you don't dictate what I respond to.

    You like other nimrods seem to be very adept at arguing things I didn't claim. I didn't claim that selling the credits is "new".

    The entire point which apparently is lost on you was that Tesla is not this stunning success of selling electric cars. Now I could point you to the threads that hyped this after they posted earnings. The point was that there is more to the story. It was being passed off as if their so called "success story" was 100% due to selling cars. As I showed that is not the case. As the articles point out selling those credits are not sustainable. Ask Enron.

    As for your Amazon non sequitur, it is irrelevant because Amazon wasn't relying on taxpayer dollars the way Tesla did.


    Now kindly go fuck yourself. With all due respect of course

    Well then by all means point us to the threads that hyped Tesla's "stunning success selling cars".

    I remember threads touting Tesla paying off their loan early and beating investor predictions, but not one thread passed off their success story as being 100% due to selling cars.

    Back up your bullshit or admit that's just what it is.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ZappasGuitar View Post
    Well then by all means point us to the threads that hyped Tesla's "stunning success selling cars".

    I remember threads touting Tesla paying off their loan early and beating investor predictions, but not one thread passed off their success story as being 100% due to selling cars.

    Back up your bullshit or admit that's just what it is.
    Which everyone assumed to be from selling these fantastic cars right? Everyone failed to mention the little fact that their profit wouldn't have been possible without the CREDITS. Don't play semantics with me. In fact wasn't it your bullshit thread? You don't even know what the fuck you are talking about.

    PWND again.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DamnYankee View Post
    Don't these things just cause pollution somewhere else? That is, unless the electricity is made from Nuke power, which liberals despise.
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    Quote Originally Posted by I Love America View Post
    Which everyone assumed to be from selling these fantastic cars right? Everyone failed to mention the little fact that their profit wouldn't have been possible without the CREDITS. Don't play semantics with me. In fact wasn't it your bullshit thread? You don't even know what the fuck you are talking about.

    PWND again.

    I win again

    You claimed people were touting Tesla's profitability as being "100% due to selling cars"...you just made that statement.

    I asked you to back up your allegation.

    You can't/won't.

    You got PWNED to the BONE!

    I WIN AGAIN!

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