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    Default palm beach police pump 115 rounds in to person who never shot at them

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    Ever since police unloaded 115 rounds into a car driven by 22-year-old Palm Beach man Raymond Herisse on Memorial Day weekend two years ago -- a firefight that wounded five bystanders and was caught on video -- a key question has been, What triggered that onslaught of firepower? Police waited days to announce they'd found a gun in Herisse's car, but did he start the barrage by firing at cops?

    A newly released lab report strongly suggests Herisse never pulled the trigger. He tested negative for gunpowder residue on his hands, a key forensic clue in shooting cases, the Miami Herald reports.

    The newly released report is public because Herisse's family and the innocent bystanders hit by police fire sued the department and accused them of dragging their feet on their investigation; a judge ordered some of the records from that investigation released last week.

    The lab report contradicts then-Chief Carlos Noriega's story: After police found a Baretta 92-F in the backseat, he said, "We were told he discharged his firearm. Now we need to confirm that with ballistics."

    But it likely won't change the department's justification for killing Herisse (who was later named a suspect in a Boynton Beach robbery). They say he tried to run down officers with his car, and using a vehicle as a weapon is considered sufficient provocation for police to fire in most cases.

    Whether or not he fired, police union chief Sgt. Alex Bello tells the Herald, doesn't change the case. "Regardless of whether or not he had gunshot residue on his hands, the guy was clearly a threat in an automobile that can take out a bunch of people," Bello says.
    several bystanders had cell phones recording this incident, they were then forced to turn over cell phones at gunpoint, which police summarily deleted or destroyed.
    A sad commentary on we, as a people, and our viewpoint of our freedom can be summed up like this. We have liberals and conservatives, Democrats and Republicans, yet those very people look at Constitutionalists as radical and extreme.................so those liberals and conservatives, Democrats and Republicans must believe that the constitution is radical and extreme.

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    At gunpoint!!
    Just like the rape of Watertown!

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    Quote Originally Posted by 007 View Post
    At gunpoint!!
    Just like the rape of Watertown!
    a WARRANT is required for cellphones containing evidence, unless that phone was used in the crime. These police are armed robbers at a minimum but will never be charged, since zappa says that is their job.
    A sad commentary on we, as a people, and our viewpoint of our freedom can be summed up like this. We have liberals and conservatives, Democrats and Republicans, yet those very people look at Constitutionalists as radical and extreme.................so those liberals and conservatives, Democrats and Republicans must believe that the constitution is radical and extreme.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SmarterthanYou View Post
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    several bystanders had cell phones recording this incident, they were then forced to turn over cell phones at gunpoint, which police summarily deleted or destroyed.
    At least one video of the event survived confiscation.
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    LOCK HIM UP!

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    This is a tough one for me.

    On one hand I am no fan of the police. On the other hand it is Palm Beach and they are too stupid to figger out how to vote.

    Tough

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jarod View Post
    At least one video of the event survived confiscation.
    yes, it did. only because the individual hid the SD card in his mouth while the cop destroyed his cell phone.
    A sad commentary on we, as a people, and our viewpoint of our freedom can be summed up like this. We have liberals and conservatives, Democrats and Republicans, yet those very people look at Constitutionalists as radical and extreme.................so those liberals and conservatives, Democrats and Republicans must believe that the constitution is radical and extreme.

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    Wow. Will be interesting to see what is discovered as the investigation moves forward; just hope some outside agency will investigate. 115 bullets? for one guy? wow. Something stinks to high heaven, based on what we know so far.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SmarterthanYou View Post
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    several bystanders had cell phones recording this incident, they were then forced to turn over cell phones at gunpoint, which police summarily deleted or destroyed.
    How the fuck do police in the US get away with this stuff? I wonder why the board's very own version of Ignatius J. Reilly groaned you?

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    How dare you all malign these fine upstanding professionals who are the only people who should have guns. Where is Zappa when you need him?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Aoxomoxoa View Post
    How the fuck do police in the US get away with this stuff?
    because most people in this country are unable to stomach the idea that police are anything other than honorable and caring protectors of the community, therefore, they are willing to let some acts of bad police slide.

    Quote Originally Posted by Aoxomoxoa View Post
    I wonder why the board's very own version of Ignatius J. Reilly groaned you?
    he's a jealous hoplophobe who wishes he was as manly as I am.
    A sad commentary on we, as a people, and our viewpoint of our freedom can be summed up like this. We have liberals and conservatives, Democrats and Republicans, yet those very people look at Constitutionalists as radical and extreme.................so those liberals and conservatives, Democrats and Republicans must believe that the constitution is radical and extreme.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SmarterthanYou View Post
    yes, it did. only because the individual hid the SD card in his mouth while the cop destroyed his cell phone.
    Yup, it was a brave man. He saw those cops kill that guy, then they pulled a gun on him, stomped on his cell phone, then walked him to a police command center. During the walk, he took the SD card out of the phone and held it in his mouth. Then the cops confiscated the phone. It took two weeks to get them to return the phone.
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    LOCK HIM UP!

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    Quote Originally Posted by SmarterthanYou View Post
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    several bystanders had cell phones recording this incident, they were then forced to turn over cell phones at gunpoint, which police summarily deleted or destroyed.
    The obvious lesson is, don't date the police chief's daughter.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Socrtease View Post
    How dare you all malign these fine upstanding professionals who are the only people who should have guns. Where is Zappa when you need him?
    I don't think I've EVER maintained that the police should be the only people who have guns...but hey what do I know!

    And after all...

    Why let a little thing like the TRUTH get in the way of another round of petty cheap shots?
    What kind of country have we become?

    One in which federal prosecutors can take “evidence” before a “grand jury,”

    and that grand jury can “vote to indict” a former president for 91 alleged “crimes”?

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    Quote Originally Posted by ZappasGuitar View Post
    I don't think I've EVER maintained that the police should be the only people who have guns...but hey what do I know!

    And after all...

    Why let a little thing like the TRUTH get in the way of another round of petty cheap shots?
    you just like to trip around the words and belittle anyone that carries a gun who isn't a cop with sexual innuendos and insults. not even close to the same thing. \sarcasm
    A sad commentary on we, as a people, and our viewpoint of our freedom can be summed up like this. We have liberals and conservatives, Democrats and Republicans, yet those very people look at Constitutionalists as radical and extreme.................so those liberals and conservatives, Democrats and Republicans must believe that the constitution is radical and extreme.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ZappasGuitar View Post
    I don't think I've EVER maintained that the police should be the only people who have guns...but hey what do I know!

    And after all...

    Why let a little thing like the TRUTH get in the way of another round of petty cheap shots?
    perhaps the gun rights people think this guy should have used the gun he had to fight against the cops? Guessing the outcome would have been the same, but the cops then would never have been called on their brutality.

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