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    Default Prayer in schools? Double standards?

    One rule for one, another rule for others!

    http://m.washingtonpost.com/blogs/an...class-to-pray/

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    do yo understand they are allowing them to follow the tennents of their religion?


    Not allowing them to leave to pray would be keeping them from practicing their religion.


    you have the compassion and understanding of a spoiled 4 year old

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    And the Jews, can they pray?
    The Christians?
    No?
    Double standards!

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    You are such a moron. ANY child can pray in school. The school can not lead the prayer. Read the case law and quit with all the faux outrage.

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    I'd have no problem with allowing the same accommodation for any religion. Just so it's not led or encouraged by any govt employee. In my school we had a 10 min break in the am and again in the pm. You were free to do anything legal during the break, including praying.

    A 10 min break for all students might be the best solution here.
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    I think that the students should have the right to pray if they wish. On their own time.How ever teachers and staff should NOT be allowed to lead prayers in class,or any other school required events.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Socrtease View Post
    You are such a moron. ANY child can pray in school. The school can not lead the prayer. Read the case law and quit with all the faux outrage.
    Read the link.
    Rules specific to Islam, no mention of other faiths.
    Equality. Is it too much to ask?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Socrtease View Post
    You are such a moron. ANY child can pray in school. The school can not lead the prayer. Read the case law and quit with all the faux outrage.
    Read the link.
    Rules specific to Islam, no mention of other faiths.
    Equality. Is it too much to ask?

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    Quote Originally Posted by 007 View Post
    Read the link.
    Rules specific to Islam, no mention of other faiths.
    Equality. Is it too much to ask?
    Does it say anywhere in the article that students of other faiths won't be given the same consideration?

    Of course not.

    As usual...this is just more overblown 007 bullshit.
    What kind of country have we become?

    One in which federal prosecutors can take “evidence” before a “grand jury,”

    and that grand jury can “vote to indict” a former president for 91 alleged “crimes”?

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    There should be no policy that facilitates the practice of Islam in schools. They are free to practice their barbaric religion, but they should keep it to themselves.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ZappasGuitar View Post
    Does it say anywhere that students of other faiths won't be given the same leeway?

    Of course not.

    As usual...this is just more overblown 007 bullshit.
    Does it say they will?
    I saw only mention of Islamic students.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rationalist View Post
    There should be no policy that facilitates the practice of Islam in schools. They are free to practice their barbaric religion, but they should keep it to themselves.
    If one group is allowed, so should all.
    I have no problem with or without, do long as it is applied equally.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rationalist View Post
    There should be no policy that facilitates the practice of Islam in schools. They are free to practice their barbaric religion, but they should keep it to themselves.
    Fuck you crusader!

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    Quote Originally Posted by 007 View Post
    Does it say they will?
    I saw only mention of Islamic students.

    yes...it does.


    Asked if Logan would have to accommodate any student who asked for class time off to pray, he said that any school district “would be wise to treat everyone the same way.”
    What kind of country have we become?

    One in which federal prosecutors can take “evidence” before a “grand jury,”

    and that grand jury can “vote to indict” a former president for 91 alleged “crimes”?

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    Quote Originally Posted by evince View Post
    do yo understand they are allowing them to follow the tennents of their religion?


    Not allowing them to leave to pray would be keeping them from practicing their religion.


    you have the compassion and understanding of a spoiled 4 year old

    Letting some students out of class during the school day while the rest of the kids stay in class is favoring ONE religion .....

    Some states have passed laws that allow schools to “simply treat everyone the same way and not give exemptions or special accommodations for religious reasons.” Asked if Logan would have to accommodate any student who asked for class time off to pray, he said that any school district “would be wise to treat everyone the same way.” Arguing that Islam requires daily prayer as a reason to accommodate Muslims and not other students of other religions is ill advised, he said.
    “And that’s one of the problems with accommodation, of course,” he said. “Once you start down that road then you really are in a bind.”
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