WAY OT: Did the KC Chiefs just go full retard?

**cawacko** · 02-27-2013, 11:32 AM

(Please Lord, I hope this is true!) Being reported that the Chiefs are giving up a 2nd round pick this year and a 'similar' pick next year for Alex Smith. Yes atheists, there is a God!

**Minister of Truth** · 02-27-2013, 11:37 AM

Smith's not even that great (he is definitely really good with a track record). If you want to get a stellar QB who has been relegated to back-up, I would recommend Matt Flynn (who I think is one of the NFL's greatest, but only time will tell) or Kirk Cousins. Hell, even Nick Foles is worth the investment since he's just coming off his rookie year with a shitty team.

**Cancel 2016.2** · 02-27-2013, 11:40 AM

2nd round pick this year (though it is number 34 over all) and a mid rounder next year...

Given the weak ass crap available at QB in the draft, a 2nd rounder is fine with me to get an above average starting QB.

**Cancel 2016.2** · 02-27-2013, 11:42 AM

Originally Posted by Threedee

Smith's not even that great (he is definitely really good with a track record). If you want to get a stellar QB who has been relegated to back-up, I would recommend Matt Flynn (who I think is one of the NFL's greatest, but only time will tell) or Kirk Cousins. Hell, even Nick Foles is worth the investment since he's just coming off his rookie year with a shitty team.

1) Flynn is too expensive and he is unproven.
2) Cousins is not leaving DC... not with the injuries to RGIII
3) Foles is worthless

Smith is not great... but he is above average and has developed enough to not lose games for you... ala Matt Cassel.

No QBs this year in the draft worth that second rounder they just gave up... so it will have to do for now.

**cawacko** · 02-27-2013, 11:47 AM

Originally Posted by Superfreak

2nd round pick this year (though it is number 34 over all) and a mid rounder next year...

Given the weak ass crap available at QB in the draft, a 2nd rounder is fine with me to get an above average starting QB.

It's being reported locally that the pick next year is basically a 2nd rounder as well. If it were one second round pick and mid round then the trade doesn't look so bad to me. Two 2nd rounders seems high.

**Cancel 2016.2** · 02-27-2013, 11:50 AM

Originally Posted by cawacko

It's being reported locally that the pick next year is basically a 2nd rounder as well. If it were one second round pick and mid round then the trade doesn't look so bad to me. Two 2nd rounders seems high.

http://espn.go.com/nfl/story/_/id/89...-chiefs-source

Contingent on how he plays next year... they say conditional mid round pick... so I would guess not another 2nd... but who knows.

**Cancel 2020.1** · 02-27-2013, 12:10 PM

It's a little steep, but I'd be stoked if I was a Chiefs fan. Smith may not be elite or anything, but he'll be a solid QB for years - something they haven't had in a long time. It's worth it to lock down that position.

I'm sure 49ers fans are happy, as well.

***Phantasmal*** · 02-27-2013, 12:15 PM

Originally Posted by Threedee

Smith's not even that great (he is definitely really good with a track record). If you want to get a stellar QB who has been relegated to back-up, I would recommend Matt Flynn (who I think is one of the NFL's greatest, but only time will tell) or Kirk Cousins. Hell, even Nick Foles is worth the investment since he's just coming off his rookie year with a shitty team.

The Eagles are keeping Foles.

Cawako, I didn't see anything about giving up our pick...

**The Dude** · 02-27-2013, 12:26 PM

Good deal for chiefs, 2 second rounders could be non starters.

**Minister of Truth** · 02-27-2013, 12:38 PM

I think Gino Smith could pleasantly surprise whichever fanbase he winds up getting drafted into.

**Cancel 2016.2** · 02-27-2013, 01:17 PM

Originally Posted by Thing1

It's a little steep, but I'd be stoked if I was a Chiefs fan. Smith may not be elite or anything, but he'll be a solid QB for years - something they haven't had in a long time. It's worth it to lock down that position.

I'm sure 49ers fans are happy, as well.

I don't know about stoked, but I think this was a no brainer. As a Chiefs fan, it has been painful with Matt Cassel. As you said, we haven't had a good QB since Trent Green.

Smith is solid and won't tend to cost us games. Chiefs now have many options with the number one. They can trade our current LT Albert and pick up the A&M LT with the number one (which I hope they do). Or they can resign Albert and try and trade down to regain picks.

**Cancel 2016.2** · 02-27-2013, 01:18 PM

Originally Posted by Threedee

I think Gino Smith could pleasantly surprise whichever fanbase he winds up getting drafted into.

He could develop, but he is not ready to start. None of them are this year. Which is why the Chiefs had to move on Smith.

**Bonestorm** · 02-27-2013, 01:24 PM

Alex Smith is not a long-term solution to the QB problem in Kansas City. Chiefs gave up quite a bit for a placeholder. Could have used those draft picks to improve at other positions. I mean, it's not as though the QB position is the only position of need.

**Bonestorm** · 02-27-2013, 01:25 PM

And I'm not saying Smith isn't an upgrade. He most definitely is. I just don't think he is the QB of the future for KC.

**Cancel 2016.2** · 02-27-2013, 01:27 PM

Originally Posted by Dungheap

Alex Smith is not a long-term solution to the QB problem in Kansas City. Chiefs gave up quite a bit for a placeholder. Could have used those draft picks to improve at other positions. I mean, it's not as though the QB position is the only position of need.

1) It was the biggest team need, by far... no other position is even remotely as weak.

2) True that A. Smith is not a long term solution... but a second round pick plus a mid rounder next year is not a lot for a starting QB (for 3-5 years) who has proven he can win in this league. The other option was what at QB? An unproven rookie?

3) We still have the number one overall pick... we have a lot of options, especially if anyone else wants to trade up.