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    Quote Originally Posted by evince View Post
    it can not live if it is taken frim the womb.

    That womb belongs to a completely formed human being.

    You dont have the right to tell that completely formed human being what YOU will allow to be done to the INSIDES of her very own flesh.


    No mommy no baby.


    get it
    That is a fallacious argument and here is why. Can a baby that is born live on its own? It needs some sort of help, preferably the mother to survive. Your logic seems to be predicated on the notion that since teh baby cannot survive on its own the mother gets to determine whether it lives or not. Does that mean she gets to determine if it lives or not five seconds after the baby exits the vaginal opening? The baby can't survive on its own then.

    Please clarify

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    Quote Originally Posted by evince View Post
    she has a right to control what happens inside her own body.

    You dont
    Doesn't she also have the RESPONSIBILITY to control what is placed inside her own body? That being the penis that expels said seminal fluid which contains the genetic material in which a human life is formed. If a woman is completely adamant about not being pregnant shouldn't she avoid the activity that leads to said pregnancy?

    For example, I don't want to be crack addict. Therefore, I do not do crack. I don't look for safe ways to do crack. I just don't do it

    I don't want to die from a lightning strike, therefore I do not stand in water when there is a thunderstorm.

    Do you understand the concept?

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    Quote Originally Posted by evince View Post
    you want rude?

    you will get it when you threaten me with your claimed ability to dig arrround INSIDE my body.

    fuck you
    Actually, nobody is claiming to be able to dig around inside your body

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    Like everything else I have my own unique perspective on this.

    Is abortion ok? No. Letting science decide at what stage a baby becomes a baby is only scientist opinion. I believe in a womans right to choose but I don't agree with a womans right to choose to end a separate life.

    The fact is both parties can win here if they put their heads together. Everyone should have easy access to birth control, the morning after pill and condoms. Yes Righty's, this means you have to cover it in taxes. And yes it will be a compromise religion will have to debate. Contraceptives are not baby killers, they are preventers. Saying contraceptives kill babies is like saying every time a woman rags she is killing a baby. We need to take a better look at adoptive services because bad people are able to get kids when possible good parents are getting denied. Then, sorry Lefties, we need to make abortion illegal. It shouldn't matter because abortion would be obsolete at this point.

    The fact is we need the ability to control birth. The Right Wing always has it's head in the clouds thinking people need to be accountable for their own decisions. But what happens when that kid grows up with an unfit parent who didn't want the child and neglected it. It's raised uneducated. It ends up on welfare because it has no experiences. It eventually shoots someone (all parties are saying gun violence is an educational issue mostly). It's the reason "Freakonomics" discussed the large drop in violence around 18 years after abortion was deemed legal
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    keep your fingers OUT of the insides of my body.


    Period.


    that is NOT negociable

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    Quote Originally Posted by Anti-Party View Post
    Like everything else I have my own unique perspective on this.

    Is abortion ok? No. Letting science decide at what stage a baby becomes a baby is only scientist opinion. I believe in a womans right to choose but I don't agree with a womans right to choose to end a separate life.

    Your first sentence contradicts the rest of your paragraph

    Everyone should have easy access to birth control, the morning after pill and condoms.

    It depends on what you mean by "easy access", but in general agree. These are not tic tacs. They are drugs that manipulate biologic process and should not be taken lightly

    Yes Righty's, this means you have to cover it in taxes.

    No

    And yes it will be a compromise religion will have to debate.

    No


    The fact is we need the ability to control birth.

    Just about every totalitarian regime and eugenics lover shares that very same premise

    The Right Wing always has it's head in the clouds thinking people need to be accountable for their own decisions.

    So you think people should not be accountable for their own decisions?

    But what happens when that kid grows up with an unfit parent who didn't want the child and neglected it. It's raised uneducated. It ends up on welfare because it has no experiences. It eventually shoots someone (all parties are saying gun violence is an educational issue mostly). It's the reason "Freakonomics" discussed the large drop in violence around 18 years after abortion was deemed legal

    Starting with an illogical premise and logically coming to an illogical conclusion does not substituted for intelligence. I am amazed when I hear people claim Freakonomics is an accurate published work. It is definitely written by a freak
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    You will NEVER be able to control us in this way again.

    Get it


    Its not going to happen

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    Quote Originally Posted by evince View Post
    keep your fingers OUT of the insides of my body.


    Period.


    that is NOT negociable
    Sorry to inform you but the gobblement tells you what you can do with your body all the time. You don't blink an eyelash at that. As I have said, if you had control over your body and made the right choices, yo wouldn't have gotten pregnant in the first place.

    I have a question for you. Do you agree with Billy Clinton the serial wife abuser when he said he wanted abortion to be "safe, legal and rare"?

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    You will NEVER again be able to force a woman to do something with her insides she does not want to do.



    Cry


    whine


    fight


    do what ever you want.


    Women will NEVER go bakc to being your chattle

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    Quote Originally Posted by evince View Post
    You will NEVER again be able to force a woman to do something with her insides she does not want to do.



    Cry


    whine


    fight


    do what ever you want.


    Women will NEVER go bakc to being your chattle
    Women can dress in clown suits, talk in Arabic, and have unprotected sex with every guy they meet as far as I care. My only interest is that human rights are protected.

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    Quote Originally Posted by evince View Post
    keep your fingers OUT of the insides of my body.


    Period.


    that is NOT negociable
    Absotively!
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    Quote Originally Posted by evince View Post
    it can not live if it is taken frim the womb.

    That womb belongs to a completely formed human being.

    You dont have the right to tell that completely formed human being what YOU will allow to be done to the INSIDES of her very own flesh.


    No mommy no baby.


    get it
    Thanks for proving Democrats deny Science when it goes against their ideology.
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    They use mean annual and five year means in trend analysis. Don't tell me I have to explain the difference to you. "

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    Quote Originally Posted by evince View Post
    You will NEVER again be able to force a woman to do something with her insides she does not want to do.



    Cry


    whine


    fight


    do what ever you want.


    Women will NEVER go bakc to being your chattle
    So it would appear the rest of your contribution to this subject is sticking your fingers in your ears and screaming

    LA LA LA LA I CAN'T HEAR YOU LA LA LA LA LA!!!!!!!!!!

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