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    In what police are describing as a so-called "honor killing," a family of six, to include a 1-year-old baby, were murdered in their two-room hovel in the poverty stricken Khyber Pakhtunkhwa Province of Pakistan, as reported by The Express Tribune (of Pakistan), on Dec. 26, 2012.

    According to police Station House Officer Qazi Asmat, two teenaged sisters, identified only as Shamia and Khalida, told police in the town of Yar Hussain that three armed men snuck into the house during the dead of night, opened fired and killed their parents, three sisters and their one-year-old niece.

    The surviving sisters accused three brother-in-laws of the crime.

    Officer Asmat said that:

    "Initial investigation revealed that the women Naseem Bibi, her one-year-old daughter Raina, Anjuman Bibi and Naqraz Bibi had separated from their husbands and were living with their parents."

    The police official also stated:

    "The family was living in a two-room house with no boundary wall or gate.

    The girls who remained unharmed were in another room."

    As cited by the Middle East Forum, the United Nations states there are upwards of 5,000 women are murdered every year in the name of so-called "honor killing."

    http://www.examiner.com/article/paki...-honor-killing

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    Quote Originally Posted by Stargazer View Post
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    It's a repetitive theme, that's already being addressed on at least 2 threads right now.

    This is a terrible crime - I condemn this crime. How is that?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Melos View Post
    In what police are describing as a so-called "honor killing," a family of six, to include a 1-year-old baby, were murdered in their two-room hovel in the poverty stricken Khyber Pakhtunkhwa Province of Pakistan, as reported by The Express Tribune (of Pakistan), on Dec. 26, 2012.

    According to police Station House Officer Qazi Asmat, two teenaged sisters, identified only as Shamia and Khalida, told police in the town of Yar Hussain that three armed men snuck into the house during the dead of night, opened fired and killed their parents, three sisters and their one-year-old niece.

    The surviving sisters accused three brother-in-laws of the crime.

    Officer Asmat said that:

    "Initial investigation revealed that the women Naseem Bibi, her one-year-old daughter Raina, Anjuman Bibi and Naqraz Bibi had separated from their husbands and were living with their parents."

    The police official also stated:

    "The family was living in a two-room house with no boundary wall or gate.

    The girls who remained unharmed were in another room."

    As cited by the Middle East Forum, the United Nations states there are upwards of 5,000 women are murdered every year in the name of so-called "honor killing."

    http://www.examiner.com/article/paki...-honor-killing

    Go ahead, Christie - groan me for telling the truth about Islam.
    The truth about what?

    That there are crazy people practicing every religion across the globe?

    Two words:

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    Quote Originally Posted by Thing1 View Post
    It's a repetitive theme, that's already being addressed on at least 2 threads right now.

    This is a terrible crime - I condemn this crime. How is that?
    We all condemn the crime.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rana View Post
    We all condemn the crime.
    But not the religion that prompted them to commit the crime?
    "We know that no one ever seizes power with the intention of relinquishing it. Power is not a means, it is an end. One does not establish a dictatorship in order to safeguard a revolution; one makes the revolution in order to establish the dictatorship. The object of persecution is persecution. The object of torture is torture. The object of power is power." -O'Brien, Nineteen Eighty-Four

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    What a hypocrite. Does voltaire ever read an American newspaper, or just trawl foreign sites to find evidence for his bigoted viewpoints? Like abuse doesn't happen here, and by so-called religious people, too.

    "Douglas and Kristen Barbour began their journey as parents of two adopted children from Ethiopia with the best of intentions.

    The devout Christians from the North Hills endured months of screening, criminal background checks, the permission of the children's birth families and the bureaucratic vagaries of the foreign adoption process before they were allowed to bring them to America...

    ...Fast forward seven months. The happy arrival at the airport has long since been eclipsed by an unspeakably dark chapter in the lives of those children. Douglas and Kristen Barbour have been arrested and charged with child endangerment and assault."

    Read more: http://www.post-gazette.com/stories/...#ixzz2Hbfryehd

    PITTSBURGH (KDKA) – A man accused of abusing his twin infant daughters waived his preliminary hearing on Thursday. Doctors said the 4-month-old girls suffered serious abuse and one of them may have permanent brain damage. Christopher Kozura, 21, is being held on aggravated assault charges and is accused of violently shaking one of the girls and causing a serious head injury to the other."

    http:// http://pittsburgh.cbslocal.com/2012/12/13/hearing-held-for-lawrence-co-man-accused-of-abusing-twins/

    "An Allegheny County prosecutor said a West Virginia mother showed "an extreme indifference to the value of human life" when she tried to suffocate her infant at a local hospital and several times in her Boone County home last year.

    Read more: http://www.post-gazette.com/stories/...#ixzz2HbewAm00

    MINNEAPOLIS -- A Minnesota couple are accused of starving their 8-year-old adopted son, feeding him only liquid and putting an alarm on his door so he would not steal food, according to criminal charges that say the boy was so malnourished his bones protruded and he weighed as much as a child half his age.

    http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/1...n_2081645.html

    VANDERGRIFT (KDKA) — A father from Vandergrift is headed to trial, accused in connection with his young daughter’s death. In court on Tuesday, the judge heard from two witnesses, a doctor who described injuries to 2-month-old Sophia Ludwiczak, and a state trooper investigating the case.

    http://pittsburgh.cbslocal.com/2012/...n-babys-death/

    NEW CASTLE (KDKA) — A mother is defending her son who is accused in the alleged abuse of his young twin daughters. She says there’s no way he could have done it, but police disagree. When his 4-month-old daughter, Autumn, was rushed to the hospital from a New Castle apartment in August, authorities say Christopher Kozura claimed she had a seizure and then rolled off a bed and fell on the floor. But doctors later told police that the infant’s brain injury was consistent with child abuse.

    http://pittsburgh.cbslocal.com/2012/...win-daughters/

    MOUNT OLIVER (KDKA) –A man has been arrested for allegedly abusing a baby in Mount Oliver. The boyfriend of the baby’s mom, 32-year-old Jason Henry is charged with child physical abuse. He’s lived with the mom and child on Walter Street for the past three months after the mother met him on Craigslist, according to authorities. The 2-year-old boy, identified as Maddax Kalafas, remains in Children’s Hospital in critical condition, since the incident Thursday night.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Melos View Post
    But not the religion that prompted them to commit the crime?
    Condemn the religion in post 7, hypocrite.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Thing1 View Post
    It's a repetitive theme, that's already being addressed on at least 2 threads right now.

    This is a terrible crime - I condemn this crime. How is that?
    You 'condemn' it.....? Really ? But you tolerate the religion that endorses it...so its not good enough
    Your condemnation is akin to says you don't like peas.....


    Is it barbaric ?

    Is it a product of their religion ? If not, whats its purpose ?

    Is it not only practiced by Muslims/Islamics ?

    Is it not primarily a crime against women, so they don't forget their place ?

    Isn't toleration, tacit approval ?
    Put blame where it belongs
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    Quote Originally Posted by bravo View Post
    You 'condemn' it.....? Really ? But you tolerate the religion that endorses it...so its not good enough
    Your condemnation is akin to says you don't like peas.....

    Is it barbaric ?
    Yes, just as barbaric as American military interference and war in other parts of the world.

    Is it a product of their religion ? If not, whats its purpose ?
    Not necessarily. It's a response to American meddling in countries and policies where we aren't entitled to have a presence. General William Boykin described the fight against terrorism as a Christian battle against Satan. I bet you weren't outraged over this.

    Is it not only practiced by Muslims/Islamics ?
    No. Period.

    Is it not primarily a crime against women, so they don't forget their place ?
    Possibly. Like Steelers rookie Chris Rainey slapping around his girlfriend and getting waived from the team after he was arrested this morning in Gainesville, Fla., and charged with simple battery.
    Isn't toleration, tacit approval ?
    Oh please. How is anybody in the US supposed to "not tolerate" a religion in another part of the world? Our presidents have already killed thousands of innocent people in other countries under the guise of freedom and democracy, or some other hogwash. Clean up your own mess before trying to take on the rest of the world.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Melos View Post
    But not the religion that prompted them to commit the crime?
    Not anymore than I blame other religions for the crimes their followers commit.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bravo View Post
    You 'condemn' it.....? Really ? But you tolerate the religion that endorses it...so its not good enough
    Your condemnation is akin to says you don't like peas.....


    Is it barbaric ?

    Is it a product of their religion ? If not, whats its purpose ?

    Is it not only practiced by Muslims/Islamics ?

    Is it not primarily a crime against women, so they don't forget their place ?

    Isn't toleration, tacit approval ?
    It's a crime, like countless that occur here in the U.S. You'd love it to be something that defines Islam itself - unfortunately for you, it just isn't.

    Sorry about that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ZappasGuitar View Post
    The truth about what?

    That there are crazy people practicing every religion across the globe?

    Two words:

    Andrea Yates
    You dare compare 5000+ murders of this kind with one crazy mother.....
    Yates had a long history of mental illness starting in 1980....and she did not use religion as an excuse for her murders, committed 20 years later....

    Honor killings are not committed by insane people, they are committed by zealots to enslave women...
    Honor killings are not the exception to the rule, they are the rule.

    That guesstimate of 5000 could easily be 20,000....we have no way of knowing ..... and its happening to different degrees, all over the world where
    Muslims have settled...
    Put blame where it belongs
    ATF decided it could not regulate bump stocks during the Obama administration.
    It that time," the NRA wrote in a statement. "The NRA believes that devices designed to allow semiautomatic rifles to function like fully-automatic rifles should be subject to additional regulations."
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    Quote Originally Posted by bravo View Post
    You dare compare 5000+ murders of this kind with one crazy mother.....
    Yates had a long history of mental illness starting in 1980....and she did not use religion as an excuse for her murders, committed 20 years later....

    Honor killings are not committed by insane people, they are committed by zealots to enslave women...
    Honor killings are not the exception to the rule, they are the rule.

    That guesstimate of 5000 could easily be 20,000....we have no way of knowing ..... and its happening to different degrees, all over the world where
    Muslims have settled...
    Is it an honor killing when a man or woman kills an estranged mate over jealousy of their new relationships?


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    Quote Originally Posted by christiefan915 View Post
    Yes, just as barbaric as American military interference and war in other parts of the world.



    Not necessarily. It's a response to American meddling in countries and policies where we aren't entitled to have a presence. General William Boykin described the fight against terrorism as a Christian battle against Satan. I bet you weren't outraged over this.



    No. Period.



    Possibly. Like Steelers rookie Chris Rainey slapping around his girlfriend and getting waived from the team after he was arrested this morning in Gainesville, Fla., and charged with simple battery.






    Oh please. How is anybody in the US supposed to "not tolerate" a religion in another part of the world? Our presidents have already killed thousands of innocent people in other countries under the guise of freedom and democracy, or some other hogwash. Clean up your own mess before trying to take on the rest of the world.
    I agree, war is killing, and can be barbaric....but you don't see the distinction....
    honor killings of women are the same as a war to you.....?.....just so I understand .

    And you see honor killing as "a response to American meddling in countries and policies where we aren't entitled to have a presence"?
    ....Thats a novel take on it, I'll say that. Honor killing must be fairly new then....

    "the fight against terrorism as a Christian battle against Satan. I bet you weren't outraged over this"
    ...One man's opinion doesn't outrage me, no...If this were a state sanctioned
    opinion, or an opinion held by millions, I would have some outrage.

    Tell me....in the year 2013, who else practices honor killing.....maybe some cannibals in Africa...? I wasn't aware it was so widespread.....( We were talking about the Middle East)

    Do you also tolerate genocide practiced in other parts of the world......maybe we should not have interfered in Bosnia......
    You can tolerate child sex slaves in Thailand but would in Chicago, I guess....

    "Our presidents have already killed thousands of innocent people in other countries under the guise of freedom and democracy, or some other hogwash.".....Christiefan

    You deserve to be recognized for that line....so no one else steals it...


    And you don't agree that "toleration" is tacit approval of something.....?....Am I wrong in believing that?
    Put blame where it belongs
    ATF decided it could not regulate bump stocks during the Obama administration.
    It that time," the NRA wrote in a statement. "The NRA believes that devices designed to allow semiautomatic rifles to function like fully-automatic rifles should be subject to additional regulations."
    The ATF and Obama admin. ignored the NRA recommendations.


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