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    Default The Left and their bizarre love affair with Islam

    On the surface, it seems a great mystery. Why would the leftist liberals who embrace abortion, homosexual rights, pornography, free love, sex, drugs, and rock-n-roll find Islam so endearing?

    The Fort Hood massacre has made it abundantly clear. Liberals display a motherly, protective attitude towards a religion which:

    • flogs sodomites,
    • executes raped women for having had sex outside of marriage,
    • forbids females from showing their face, much less their fundamentals,
    • virtually enslaves women inside their own homes by forbidding them to walk in public without the accompaniment of a male relative,
    • displays the height of patriarchy in its polygamous culture,
    • essentially forbids musical instruments of any kind, much less Western rock-n-roll,
    • denounces not only hard drugs, but even the use of alcohol as a violation of morality.
    • permits, indeed, tacitly encourages, the removal of every young girl's clitoris by the age of seven without benefit of anesthesia.

    Why would leftists who hold candle-lit vigils outside American penitentiaries constantly coddle men who publicly, and with great fanfare, chop hands, feet and heads from their own criminals?

    Why allow the name of Allah and the practice of Ramadan into public schools while forbidding the name of Jesus and the practice of Christmas?

    David Kupelian, of WorldNetDaily, argues that the left does this because they are spineless cowards, afraid of coming under the threat of deadly fatwah. But this cannot be the case.

    After all, look at the leftist embrace of abortionists, men and women who wear body armor to their place of work. Even though you are much more likely to end up dead from being pro-life than you are from being pro-abort, the left constantly touts the dangers of being in favor of abortion. Liberals love to point to the possibilities of martyrdom inherent in promoting the "right to choose."

    They can be brave when it comes to supporting their own principles. So why don't they bravely stand up to the Muslims who so clearly, so stridently, oppose so many of the things liberals claim to stand for?

    The answer is simple.

    Liberals and Muslims differ in their external expressions of how to live out their common fundamental value, but they do share a common, fundamental value.

    Army Major Nidal Hakim Hasan was not the first to name the value, but he is certainly one of the more memorable: "We Love Death More Than You Love Life."

    The liberals and the Muslims are both, at bottom, nihilists.

    Like calls to Like across the deep.

    They know each other, they have known each other since before either was born.

    We are the same, you and I, Muslim and liberal.

    True, you flog and kill me today, and I sneer at your silly theistic beliefs today, but ultimately, we are fellow travelers, on a long desert trek to the same destination. Like the sadist and the masochist, we make a perfect couple.


    Major Hasan has to be protected and excused because Major Hasan is a liberal at heart.

    He did to the soldiers at Fort Hood what every good atheist liberal has always wanted to do to those Christian, God-fearing, courageous American soldiers - he shot them through the head. He shot them through the heart. He drove a stake into them, chased them down while they were wounded and pumped more bullets into them. He shot them and shot them and shot them until their blood flowed like water, until their blood clotted on the floor, and then he shot them again. He destroyed them, he vented his rage upon them, he annihilated them for daring to question the annihilation that is coming to us all. He ground them to dust, the dust of the universe.

    Major Hasan is a comfort to the liberals, he is the teddy bear they haven't had since they were six.

    They want him to win, because when he wins, everyone loses.

    We lose hope, we lose our belief in the True, the Good and the Beautiful, we lose our contact with God, with Life Himself. And isn't that annihilation of the bond worth a little bloodshed?

    No, the Left does not fear Islam.

    It adores Islam.

    Islam does what the Left wants to do but cannot yet accomplish - it destroys.

    Islam is the hero, the superman.

    One day, the Left in the United States will do what Islam does today.

    http://skellmeyer.blogspot.com/2009/...ves-islam.html
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    The short answer is that Christians are considered to be a greater threat to the Left than Muslims are. So it's not so much that the Left loves Islam, as it is that they despise Christianity.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Stargazer View Post
    On the surface, it seems a great mystery. Why would the leftist liberals who embrace abortion, homosexual rights, pornography, free love, sex, drugs, and rock-n-roll find Islam so endearing?

    The Fort Hood massacre has made it abundantly clear. Liberals display a motherly, protective attitude towards a religion which:

    • flogs sodomites,
    • executes raped women for having had sex outside of marriage,
    • forbids females from showing their face, much less their fundamentals,
    • virtually enslaves women inside their own homes by forbidding them to walk in public without the accompaniment of a male relative,
    • displays the height of patriarchy in its polygamous culture,
    • essentially forbids musical instruments of any kind, much less Western rock-n-roll,
    • denounces not only hard drugs, but even the use of alcohol as a violation of morality.
    • permits, indeed, tacitly encourages, the removal of every young girl's clitoris by the age of seven without benefit of anesthesia.

    Why would leftists who hold candle-lit vigils outside American penitentiaries constantly coddle men who publicly, and with great fanfare, chop hands, feet and heads from their own criminals?

    Why allow the name of Allah and the practice of Ramadan into public schools while forbidding the name of Jesus and the practice of Christmas?

    I can't wait to hear Darla, Christiefan, Rana, Zappa, Thing1 and the rest reply, at lease to this part, in detail......
    The stock answer will be, "but its only a small minority of zealots to do this".....and just deny the rest.........if they reply at all.....
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    Aren't there enough "bigot magnet" threads on the board at the moment?

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    Quote Originally Posted by bravo View Post
    I can't wait to hear Darla, Christiefan, Rana, Zappa, Thing1 and the rest reply, at lease to this part, in detail......
    The stock answer will be, "but its only a small minority of zealots to do this".....and just deny the rest.........if they reply at all.....
    It's the most mind boggling thing I've seen. Alleged 'progressives' who will defend a 'religion' that hangs gays and blames women for being raped, amongst other horrendous things. They protect and defend it...........like a retarded baby.

    Does not compute.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Thing1 View Post
    Aren't there enough "bigot magnet" threads on the board at the moment?
    Awww. I tink it's time for your Quran reading and cup of warm camel piss before beddy bye, little Islam lover.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Stargazer View Post
    Awww. I tink it's time for your Quran reading and cup of warm camel piss before beddy bye, little Islam lover.
    Unlike a few here, I don't hate anyone. I'm fine w/ Christians & Muslims, as long as their religion is a private thing - not part of gov't, not in our schools.

    It's pretty consistent, actually. And both religions - as well as others - have extremists who use the religion for a political agenda. But the vast majority of both keep it private, which I respect.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Thing1 View Post
    Unlike a few here, I don't hate anyone. I'm fine w/ Christians & Muslims, as long as their religion is a private thing - not part of gov't, not in our schools.

    It's pretty consistent, actually. And both religions - as well as others - have extremists who use the religion for a political agenda. But the vast majority of both keep it private, which I respect.
    I agree. There is no liberal love affair with Islam. It's just that there is no liberal hate fest and unrealistic fear of Islam like right wingers are seething with. They can't accept it.
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    Personally I don’t like any religion.
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    Quote Originally Posted by bravo View Post
    I can't wait to hear Darla, Christiefan, Rana, Zappa, Thing1 and the rest reply, at lease to this part, in detail......
    The stock answer will be, "but its only a small minority of zealots to do this".....and just deny the rest.........if they reply at all.....
    Is the right defined by the views and actions of individuals such as Akin, Broun and Bachmann - or even Hitler and Mussolini? Short answer, no.

    If you want to use that rhetoric, at least try to hide your double standard.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Thing1 View Post
    Unlike a few here, I don't hate anyone. I'm fine w/ Christians & Muslims, as long as their religion is a private thing - not part of gov't, not in our schools.

    It's pretty consistent, actually. And both religions - as well as others - have extremists who use the religion for a political agenda. But the vast majority of both keep it private, which I respect.
    Quote Originally Posted by Bfgrn View Post
    I agree. There is no liberal love affair with Islam. It's just that there is no liberal hate fest and unrealistic fear of Islam like right wingers are seething with. They can't accept it.
    Quote Originally Posted by wanderingbear View Post
    Personally I don’t like any religion.
    Quote Originally Posted by Shy Guy View Post
    Is the right defined by the views and actions of individuals such as Akin, Broun and Bachmann - or even Hitler and Mussolini? Short answer, no.

    If you want to use that rhetoric, at least try to hide your double standard.

    Its refreshing to see the total acceptance by liberals, of a culture, and yes, a religion that practices what is listed below again, to refresh your memory.....


    • flogs sodomites,
    • executes raped women for having had sex outside of marriage,
    • forbids females from showing their face, much less their fundamentals,
    • virtually enslaves women inside their own homes by forbidding them to walk in public without the accompaniment of a male relative,
    • displays the height of patriarchy in its polygamous culture,
    • essentially forbids musical instruments of any kind, much less Western rock-n-roll,
    • denounces not only hard drugs, but even the use of alcohol as a violation of morality.
    • permits, indeed, tacitly encourages, the removal of every young girl's clitoris by the age of seven without benefit of anesthesia.

    Truly amazing.....such tolerance and understanding (unlike what is shown to Christians).....9/11 and the thousands of other murders committed in Islams name, but a foggy memory, .....

    I'm totally in awe of such hypocrisy.....

    Christians get more grief, condemnation and ridicule from the left for displaying a Nativity scene, once a year, than the people that have been
    doing the above for centuries are treated with tolerance....
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    Quote Originally Posted by bravo View Post
    Its refreshing to see the total acceptance by liberals, of a culture, and yes, a religion that practices what is listed below again, to refresh your memory.....


    • flogs sodomites,
    • executes raped women for having had sex outside of marriage,
    • forbids females from showing their face, much less their fundamentals,
    • virtually enslaves women inside their own homes by forbidding them to walk in public without the accompaniment of a male relative,
    • displays the height of patriarchy in its polygamous culture,
    • essentially forbids musical instruments of any kind, much less Western rock-n-roll,
    • denounces not only hard drugs, but even the use of alcohol as a violation of morality.
    • permits, indeed, tacitly encourages, the removal of every young girl's clitoris by the age of seven without benefit of anesthesia.

    Truly amazing.....such tolerance and understanding (unlike what is shown to Christians).....9/11 and the thousands of other murders committed in Islams name, but a foggy memory, .....

    I'm totally in awe of such hypocrisy.....
    There is a large Muslim community about two miles from me and I don't recall them doing any of those things. Actually why is eschewing alcohol and drugs such a bad thing?? There is a Pakistani plumbing supply company down there, I will have to ask him if he also does female circumcision next time I go in for a new ballcock.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Grecian View Post
    The short answer is that Christians are considered to be a greater threat to the Left than Muslims are. So it's not so much that the Left loves Islam, as it is that they despise Christianity.
    I don't despise any religion, just like guns, religions are misused by many humans.

    Islam is an example. The poll provided by Melos shows countries where the extremists control the religion, funny, they never include Saudi Arabia, why is that? I wonder if a poll taken in the USA, England, Canada or Japan would show Muslims being in favor of these extreme forms of corporal punishment, and remember, the USA is considered barbarous because we still have the death penalty, I bet you would find the USA Muslims have adapted the culture of the West nd do not agree with stoning for breaking the law.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Aoxomoxoa View Post
    There is a large Muslim community about two miles from me and I don't recall them doing any of those things. Actually why is eschewing alcohol and drugs such a bad thing?? There is a Pakistani plumbing supply company down there, I will have to ask him if he also does female circumcision next time I go in for a new ballcock.
    Perhaps you don't get often enough or maybe you're considered an outsider to them

    despite sustained efforts to discourage it, FGM continues to be practised on girls in the UK. An estimated 24,000 girls in England and Wales alone are at risk of undergoing FGM, but the real number is likely to be significantly higher than this. UK-based parents who are determined to have their daughter mutilated frequently take them abroad to have the procedure done. They rarely fear prosecution on their return. A common expression is that 'the UK does not have the guts to prosecute anybody in relation to FGM'.

    http://www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/efua...b_2222810.html
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    Quote Originally Posted by Thing1 View Post
    Unlike a few here, I don't hate anyone. I'm fine w/ Christians & Muslims, as long as their religion is a private thing - not part of gov't, not in our schools.

    It's pretty consistent, actually. And both religions - as well as others - have extremists who use the religion for a political agenda. But the vast majority of both keep it private, which I respect.
    Exactly, keep your religion off my body
    Exactly

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