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    Default Gun Ban will not solve any problems.

    http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/1440764.stm

    Handgun crime 'up' despite ban
    Handgun
    Handguns were banned following the Dunblane massacre
    A new study suggests the use of handguns in crime rose by 40% in the two years after the weapons were banned.

    The research, commissioned by the Countryside Alliance's Campaign for Shooting, has concluded that existing laws are targeting legitimate users of firearms rather than criminals.

    The ban on ownership of handguns was introduced in 1997 as a result of the Dunblane massacre, when Thomas Hamilton opened fire at a primary school leaving 16 children and their teacher dead.


    Existing gun laws do not lead to crime reduction and a safer place

    David Bredin
    Campaign for Shooting
    But the report suggests that despite the restrictions on ownership the use of handguns in crime is rising.

    The Centre for Defence Studies at Kings College in London, which carried out the research, said the number of crimes in which a handgun was reported increased from 2,648 in 1997/98 to 3,685 in 1999/2000.

    It also said there was no link between high levels of gun crime and areas where there were still high levels of lawful gun possession.

    Of the 20 police areas with the lowest number of legally held firearms, 10 had an above average level of gun crime.

    And of the 20 police areas with the highest levels of legally held guns only two had armed crime levels above the average.

    Smuggling

    The campaign's director, David Bredin, said: "It is crystal clear from the research that the existing gun laws do not lead to crime reduction and a safer place.

    "Policy makers have targeted the legitimate sporting and farming communities with ever-tighter laws but the research clearly demonstrates that it is illegal guns which are the real threat to public safety."

    He said the rise was largely down to successful smuggling of illegal guns into the country.

    Weapons have even been disguised as key rings no larger than a matchbox to get them in, he said.

    Other sources of guns include battlefield trophies brought back by soldiers, the illegal conversion of replica firearms including blank firing pistols and the reactivation of weapons which had been deactivated.

    Ammunition

    Examples of illegally manufactured guns include screwdrivers being adapted to fire off one round, he said.

    The Metropolitan Police said its official figures showed a 20% drop in armed robberies of commercial premises between April and July this year, compared with the same period last year.

    A Scotland Yard spokesman said that, since April 2001, the Flying Squad has arrested 39 people in connection with 34 armed incidents and seized 52 weapons.

    Operation Trident, which investigates "black on black" shootings in the UK, has made more than 300 arrests, recovered 100 firearms and 1,500 rounds of ammunition since it was established a year ago.

    The Home Office said measures were being taken to tackle handgun crime, including an intensified effort against illegally smuggled weapons.


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    Australia not doing great either,
    AUSTRALIA: MORE VIOLENT CRIME DESPITE GUN BAN

    April 13, 2009

    It is a common fantasy that gun bans make society safer. In 2002 -- five years after enacting its gun ban -- the Australian Bureau of Criminology acknowledged there is no correlation between gun control and the use of firearms in violent crime. In fact, the percent of murders committed with a firearm was the highest it had ever been in 2006 (16.3 percent), says the D.C. Examiner.

    Even Australia's Bureau of Crime Statistics and Research acknowledges that the gun ban had no significant impact on the amount of gun-involved crime:

    In 2006, assault rose 49.2 percent and robbery 6.2 percent.
    Sexual assault -- Australia's equivalent term for rape -- increased 29.9 percent.
    Overall, Australia's violent crime rate rose 42.2 percent.

    Moreover, Australia and the United States -- where no gun-ban exists -- both experienced similar decreases in murder rates:

    Between 1995 and 2007, Australia saw a 31.9 percent decrease; without a gun ban, America's rate dropped 31.7 percent.
    During the same time period, all other violent crime indices increased in Australia: assault rose 49.2 percent and robbery 6.2 percent.
    Sexual assault -- Australia's equivalent term for rape -- increased 29.9 percent.
    Overall, Australia's violent crime rate rose 42.2 percent.
    At the same time, U.S. violent crime decreased 31.8 percent: rape dropped 19.2 percent; robbery decreased 33.2 percent; aggravated assault dropped 32.2 percent.
    Australian women are now raped over three times as often as American women.

    While this doesn't prove that more guns would impact crime rates, it does prove that gun control is a flawed policy. Furthermore, this highlights the most important point: gun banners promote failed policy regardless of the consequences to the people who must live with them, says the Examiner.

    Source: Howard Nemerov, "Australia experiencing more violent crime despite gun ban," D.C. Examiner, April 8, 2009.



    http://www.examiner.com/x-2879-Austi...espite-gun-ban

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    of course it won't, but public safety isn't the goal for anti-gunners. the ultimate goal for anti gunners is to eliminate the possibility of resistance in pursuit of enforcing their agenda
    A sad commentary on we, as a people, and our viewpoint of our freedom can be summed up like this. We have liberals and conservatives, Democrats and Republicans, yet those very people look at Constitutionalists as radical and extreme.................so those liberals and conservatives, Democrats and Republicans must believe that the constitution is radical and extreme.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SmarterthanYou View Post
    of course it won't, but public safety isn't the goal for anti-gunners. the ultimate goal for anti gunners is to eliminate the possibility of resistance in pursuit of enforcing their agenda
    Let the resistance begin, we better get started.

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    Quote Originally Posted by signalmankenneth View Post
    this was the standing army that the founders feared, not the well regulated militia they envisioned. your ideology fails and is treasonous.
    A sad commentary on we, as a people, and our viewpoint of our freedom can be summed up like this. We have liberals and conservatives, Democrats and Republicans, yet those very people look at Constitutionalists as radical and extreme.................so those liberals and conservatives, Democrats and Republicans must believe that the constitution is radical and extreme.

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