Reply With QuoteThe TV series "Mad Men" showed husbands cheating and generally treating the women workers as subservient. That got rave reviews. In fact, the biggest feminist on these forums is a huge fan of the show.
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Women and movies. War against men.
The Bridges Of Madison County. “The brief, illicit love affair between an Iowa housewife and a post-middle-age free-lance photographer is chronicled in this powerful romance based on the best-selling novella by Robert James Waller.”(Clint Eastwood and Meryl Streep.)
The titanic. The characters are Jack and Rose and Cal. Jack and Rose are engaged, however, Rose and Cal end up making love inside a car in the ship's cargo hold. (Leonardo DiCaprio, Kate Winslet and Billy Zane.)
The first one deals with a cheating housewife and the second, well, if anyone is familiar with the cargo hold of a ship it’s not exactly a romantic settling. Both movies have been considered beautiful love stories, at least by the female persuasion.
Now let’s imagine a story about a married, male office manager and his secretary. He phones home to tell his wife he’ll be working late. The camera switches to the wife in the kitchen preparing dinner and pans the clock on the wall. The scene fades and then returns to show the wife eating alone at the kitchen table and the clock shows an hour has passed. Then the camera switches to the man and his secretary in the back of the warehouse banging away on some crates.
I doubt that movie would receive rave reviews. So, my question is, “Why do stories depicting cheating women get applause when stories of cheating men are scorned?” Is there a war against men?
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The TV series "Mad Men" showed husbands cheating and generally treating the women workers as subservient. That got rave reviews. In fact, the biggest feminist on these forums is a huge fan of the show.
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It's popular because it shows the attitudes and norms that existed not that long ago. I know some here would find it confusing but really? You don't seem to have a firm grip of what racism is, or rape or misogyny to name just a few. How can anyone have a discussion with people that insist on redefining language in order to ignore problems and real issues?
The war on women is real...the war on men not so much....just an angry white guy problem.
None of this addresses the OP of course, sorry about that.
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Correction: THREE of the biggest feminists.Originally Posted by WinterBorn
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Hmmm, I've never watched that show. I'll have to check it out. I don't watch much TV.
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My apologies. lolCorrection: THREE of the biggest feminists.
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I think the movie Titanic would be an exception because Rose was basically being pushed into an arranged marriage and a man was rescuing her from that.
As for the cargo hold being a romantic place for an encounter, I think you misunderstand what a "romantic setting" can be. Ok, so its not silk sheets, candlelight and soft music. But romance is much more than that.
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Did you see her hand sliding down the steamed up rear window? If that's supposed to denote romance the typical drive-ins of the past, on a cool evening, would have made Don Juan envious. I mean, really, in the back seat of a car! In a ship's hold? Can it get any more tawdry? At least at the drive-in there was moon light and depending on the movie there might be background music or romantic conversation.
Don't get me wrong. I have nothing against a passionate encounter. The point being an evening leading up to an intimate encounter (dinner, music, dancing) then escorting the lady back to her room and, eventually, ending up in bed together can be understood, if not accepted. However, earlier in the story she had the guy draw her naked. Here is a woman who was engaged and portrayed as whoring around on her fiance while receiving accolades from the audience and movie critics.
Switch her character with an engaged male banging some chick in the back seat of a car in a ship's hold while his fiancée is looking for him. I doubt many would leave the theater commenting on what a beautiful love story it was.
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I don't know about that. If you have a young man who was being pushed by his family to marry a bitchy woman for her money, and he had not slept with her, and then he meets someone special and has a rendezvous, I could see people saying it was romantic.
The area in which men are held to different standards is when they date younger women. A 40+ year old woman banging a young guy is a cougar. A 40+ year old man banging a young woman is a pervert.
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It shows a difference in culture now as opposed to then. Would you not want to watch a show that highlights your successes?
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Most women seem to like to watch shows about misery and suffering. Hence Lifetime and the womens channel.
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Most women...you think so? I don't watch a lot of tv but I like some series and movies...
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