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    Default Eliminate the deductions?

    Are too many ‘charities’ political organizations masquerading as do-gooders?


    Are churches serving as de facto political organizing arms for conservatives?


    If someone gives money to a secular political group or union, they don’t get a tax deduction.


    If people want to give money to these organizations, it’s their right to do so.


    But the taxpayers shouldn’t have to subsidize those activities, should we?

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    I am for a fair tax. I believe this would eliminate most deductions.

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    Quote Originally Posted by \\((|))// View Post
    Are too many ‘charities’ political organizations masquerading as do-gooders?


    Are churches serving as de facto political organizing arms for conservatives?


    If someone gives money to a secular political group or union, they don’t get a tax deduction.


    If people want to give money to these organizations, it’s their right to do so.


    But the taxpayers shouldn’t have to subsidize those activities, should we?
    The deductions are there for the following reasoning.

    The government gives money to charities it likes.
    This money is the peoples.
    Some people don't like certain charities.
    They feel they should be able to choose where their charity money goes.
    Therefore when they give money to charities of their choice, they don't want the government taking that money and giving it to charities they don't like.

    If you remove deductions for donations to charity, remove all of them. If you don't like people taking deductions for money given to the church that's against abortion. Then don't expect a reduction for giving money to the organization that's pro gay marriage. I trust my judgement on where my charity money goes, far more than the government's judgement.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Disillusioned View Post
    remove all of them


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    Quote Originally Posted by Rana View Post
    I am for a fair tax. I believe this would eliminate most deductions.
    The Fair tax Act removes all deductions, since it is a consumption tax.

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    I wonder how many of the supposedly "religious" charitable givers would continue their largess if it didn't save them tax?

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    I think there should still be deductions (if we maintain the current tax system) for donations to religious organizations. But I think there should be some oversight by the gov't into how much of the church's income is spent in charitable endeavors and how much in political campaigning, ect. Tax the churches on whatever they spend in political campaigning. That would quickly cure that issue.

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    Quote Originally Posted by WinterBorn View Post
    I think there should still be deductions (if we maintain the current tax system) for donations to religious organizations. But I think there should be some oversight by the gov't into how much of the church's income is spent in charitable endeavors and how much in political campaigning, ect. Tax the churches on whatever they spend in political campaigning. That would quickly cure that issue.
    Can you explain why the government should forfeit tax revenues in order to fund religious organizations?

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    Quote Originally Posted by \\((|))// View Post
    I wonder how many of the supposedly "religious" charitable givers would continue their largess if it didn't save them tax?
    I don't know about others, but I don't claim any of our donations on our taxes.
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    Quote Originally Posted by \\((|))// View Post
    Can you explain why the government should forfeit tax revenues in order to fund religious organizations?
    If they provide a service that otherwise would be provided by government it would be worth it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Damocles View Post
    I don't know about others, but I don't claim any of our donations on our taxes.
    Classy.

    It's a privilege to live in this nation and have the means to bless other in need.

    Again, this is why Damo stands head and shoulders above what passes for 'conservative' in most situations, IMO.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Damocles View Post
    If they provide a service that otherwise would be provided by government it would be worth it.
    But is it justifiable constitutionally?

    BTW, the government has an obligation to provide services on an equal basis. Can you guarantee the same impartiality for all charitable organizations?

    Practically speaking, it seems we get more "bang for the buck" with government service providers.

    Imagine giving a tax deduction to the Knights Templar if they waged our wars.

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    Quote Originally Posted by \\((|))// View Post
    Can you explain why the government should forfeit tax revenues in order to fund religious organizations?
    For many of the charitable works of religious organizations, we get more bang for our buck thru religious organizations. Look at how much of the money actually gets to the people in need. For many religious groups, they provide staffing and other overhead from the general funds, so any specific donations will reach the needs in greater amounts.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Damocles View Post
    I don't know about others, but I don't claim any of our donations on our taxes.
    Nor do we.

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    Quote Originally Posted by WinterBorn View Post
    For many of the charitable works of religious organizations, we get more bang for our buck thru religious organizations. Look at how much of the money actually gets to the people in need. For many religious groups, they provide staffing and other overhead from the general funds, so any specific donations will reach the needs in greater amounts.
    Got any facts that support that opinion?

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