WATERMARK, GREATEST OF THE TRINITY, ON CHIK-FIL-A
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Depends on how you define support. The Iraqi invasion was, in part, to trigger the Arab Spring. So in that instance it's entirely dependent on our support. But if you mean us flying bombing campaigns in Libya, that only hastened the inevitable victory. Success is a complicated matter. Democracy does not just happen. This would be the first generation to experience it in most, if not all, of Arabic recorded history. They're not going to get everything right the first time.
WATERMARK, GREATEST OF THE TRINITY, ON CHIK-FIL-A
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ME still sucks, and likely always will. I hope we don't get anymore involved, and eventually leave the people to their own century. I'm not really worried much about the Iranian nuclear program, seeing as how Iran is far more stable than the shithole that is Pakistan. If anyone has a problem with it, that would be Israel, and they can handle it.
"It [the draft] is duty rather than slavery. I part with the author on the caviler idea that individual freedom (whatever that may be to the person) leads to nirvana, anyone older that 12 knows that is BS."
-(Midcan5)
"Allow me to masturbate my patriotism furiously and publicly at this opportunity."
-(Ib1yysguy)
"There is no 'equal opportunity' today unless the government makes it so."
-(apple0154 )
"abortion is not killing Its birth control"
-(Desh)
Rune (09-04-2012)
Not really a fan of Arab Spring, seeing as how a proto-democratic ME is far more problematic to us than a despotic one.
"It [the draft] is duty rather than slavery. I part with the author on the caviler idea that individual freedom (whatever that may be to the person) leads to nirvana, anyone older that 12 knows that is BS."
-(Midcan5)
"Allow me to masturbate my patriotism furiously and publicly at this opportunity."
-(Ib1yysguy)
"There is no 'equal opportunity' today unless the government makes it so."
-(apple0154 )
"abortion is not killing Its birth control"
-(Desh)
It is the responsibility of every American citizen to own a modern military rifle.
"It [the draft] is duty rather than slavery. I part with the author on the caviler idea that individual freedom (whatever that may be to the person) leads to nirvana, anyone older that 12 knows that is BS."
-(Midcan5)
"Allow me to masturbate my patriotism furiously and publicly at this opportunity."
-(Ib1yysguy)
"There is no 'equal opportunity' today unless the government makes it so."
-(apple0154 )
"abortion is not killing Its birth control"
-(Desh)
WATERMARK, GREATEST OF THE TRINITY, ON CHIK-FIL-A
www.gunsbeerfreedom.blogspot.com
www.gunsbeerfreedom.blogspot.com
WATERMARK, GREATEST OF THE TRINITY, ON CHIK-FIL-A
www.gunsbeerfreedom.blogspot.com
www.gunsbeerfreedom.blogspot.com
The neocon stance is actually the most humanitarian.
Conservatives like me want to isolate the ME within its own century. Liberals want to do nothing, and pretend like they are helping to save lives, respect other cultures, etc. Neocons want to actively engage in the ME militarily and finantially, so as to spread liberty/democracy and build new/lost infrastructure (oh, yeah, and save beloved Israel).
"It [the draft] is duty rather than slavery. I part with the author on the caviler idea that individual freedom (whatever that may be to the person) leads to nirvana, anyone older that 12 knows that is BS."
-(Midcan5)
"Allow me to masturbate my patriotism furiously and publicly at this opportunity."
-(Ib1yysguy)
"There is no 'equal opportunity' today unless the government makes it so."
-(apple0154 )
"abortion is not killing Its birth control"
-(Desh)
AMERICAN HISTORY ITSELF IS A TESTAMENT TO THE STRENGTH AND RESILIENCE OF AFRICAN PEOPLE. WE, ALONG WITH THE COURGE AND SACRIFICES OF CONSCIOUS WHITE AMERICANS, LIKE VIOLA LIUZZO, EVERETT DIRKSEN, AND MANY OTHERS, HAVE FOUGHT AND DIED TOGETHER FOR OUR FREEDOM, AND FOR OUR SURVIVAL.
In America, rights are are not determined by what is just, fair, equitable, honest, nor by what Jesus would do. Rights are determined ONLY by what you can DEMAND.
Rune (09-09-2012)
Does that mean the ME will become less of a shithole?
"It [the draft] is duty rather than slavery. I part with the author on the caviler idea that individual freedom (whatever that may be to the person) leads to nirvana, anyone older that 12 knows that is BS."
-(Midcan5)
"Allow me to masturbate my patriotism furiously and publicly at this opportunity."
-(Ib1yysguy)
"There is no 'equal opportunity' today unless the government makes it so."
-(apple0154 )
"abortion is not killing Its birth control"
-(Desh)
Possibly, but unlikely until we get a new source of fuel. There's too much money to be made in screwing over the ME. For an easy comparison check out the last 50-70 years of the Qing Dynasty in China. The similarities are staggering and given the way China has turned out, rather scary. Eventually "the middle east will stand up" (see China and the Korean War) and when it does, what are they going to remember about the way the west treated them? We're not making friends over there.
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