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    Billionaire corporate interests and other well financed anti-labor forces are waging a major drive to stifle the political voice of workers and their unions in California that is certain to spread nationwide if not stopped - and stopped now.

    At issue is a highly deceptive measure, Proposition 32, on the state's November election ballot, that its anti-labor sponsors label as an even-handed attempt to limit campaign spending. But actually, it would limit - and severely - only the spending of unions while leaving corporations and other moneyed special interests free to spend as much as they like.

    Unions would be prohibited from making political contributions with money collected from voluntary paycheck deductions authorized by their members, which is the main source of union political funds.

    But there would be no limits on corporations, whose political funds come from their profits, their customers or suppliers and the contributions of corporate executives. Nor would there be any limit on the political spending of the executives or any other wealthy individuals. What's more, corporate special interests and billionaires could still give unlimited millions to secretive "Super PACs" that can raise unlimited amounts of money anonymously to finance their political campaigns.

    The proposition would have a "devastating impact" on unions, notes Professor John Logan, director of labor and employment studies at San Francisco State University. As he says, it would likely all but eliminate political spending by unions while greatly increasing political spending by business interests and wealthy individuals.

    Anti-labor interests are already outspending unions nationwide by a ratio of more than $15 for every $1 spent by unions. Between 2000 and 2011, that amounted to $700 million spent by anti-labor forces, while unions spent just a little more than $284 million.

    Proposition 32 would even restrict unions in their communications with their own members on political issues. That's because money raised by payroll deductions pays for the preparation and mailing of communications to union members, including political materials.

    Unfortunately, there's even more - much more -to Proposition 32. It also would prohibit unions from making contributions to political parties and defines public employee unions as "government contractors" that would be forbidden from attempting to influence any government agency with whom they have a contract.

    That restriction applies not only to unions. It also would cover political action committees established by any membership organization, "any agency or employee representation committee or plan," such as those seeking stronger civil rights or environmental protections.Proposition 32 seeks to weaken, that is, any membership group which might seek reforms opposed by wealthy individuals or corporations and their Republican allies. It's no wonder the measure is actively opposed, not only by organized labor, but also by the country's leading good-government groups, including Common Cause and the League of Women Voters.

    Yet the proposition's sponsors have the incredible gall to bill their measure as genuine campaign finance reform. They obviously hope that claim, which Common Cause accurately describes as a "laughable deception," will win over the many voters who have been demanding reforms and who, in their eagerness, will fail to recognize the measure's true nature.

    "This is not genuine campaign finance reform," as San Francisco State's John Logan says, "but a bill of rights for billionaires."

    The losers would include teachers, nurses, police, firefighters and other union members and those who benefit from the essential services they provide - students, the elderly, and the ailing, the poverty stricken, those who work and live in unsafe conditions and other needy citizens, and consumers, environmentalists and others who also are neglected by the profit-chasing corporate interests that dominate political and economic life.

    Make no mistake: Lots of money is being funneled into the Proposition 32 campaign by some of the same wealthy backers who bankrolled such anti-labor efforts as the campaign that blocked the massive attempt to recall virulently anti-labor GOP Gov. Scott Walker of Wisconsin this year.

    Should the anti-union forces also prevail, it will undoubtedly lead to what Logan says "will promote a tsunami of ballot initiatives in 2013 at the local level and in 2014 at the state level designed to drive down working conditions in both the public and private sectors."

    Logan adds, "Lacking the ability to oppose these reactionary measures under the new election rules, California's workers could soon face the weakest labor standards in the country". But if the measure is rejected, it "may slow the momentum behind other attempts to increase the corrosive impact of money in politics."

    It's true that some states already have laws and regulations seriously limiting labor's influence. But it's certain that victory by the anti-labor forces in California will slow any attempts at reform in other states and lead as well to attempts to impose anti-union measures elsewhere, as well as expanding those that already exist.

    The stakes are huge. If the 1 percent have their way in California, the country's largest state, other states are certain to follow.

    By Dick Meister





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    If approved, Proposition 32 will:

    • Ban both corporate and union contributions to state and local candidates
    • Ban contributions by government contractors to the politicians who control contracts awarded to them
    • Ban automatic deductions by corporations, unions, and government of employees’ wages to be used for politics

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    I would like to pose a question to all the jealous "millionaires and billionaires" people, you know, the ones who are constantly yammering in jealousy over the "1% vs. 99%" ...You know, the Occu-tards....

    Can you give me some examples of individuals who became billionaires in China or Russia? These are countries who rival us in size, and they utilize the type of governmental system you advocate, so we should see at least a few "Bill Gates or Oprah Winfrey" types, right? Who are they, can you point them out? Because I am not finding examples of people who've attained such levels of capitalist success over there.

    We are fucking FORTUNATE to live in a free country, where individuals CAN become super-wealthy! No other place on the planet has as much of an opportunity afforded to average individuals. NONE! The Eurotrash Socialist regimes you want to copy, have NO examples of individual success on the level that we have.

    Here is what your idiotic 'message' boils down to... You don't want people to become successful, PERIOD! You want to have everyone live in poverty and depend on a ruler or dictator for basic survival. You wish to give up the freedoms and liberties which enable individuals to be successful in a capitalist free market system, because you are jealous of what they have. But here's the kicker... when you remove the "1%" from the capitalist free market system, and you disable that system completely, then no one can generate wealth, and without the ability to generate wealth, the whole society becomes poor. There are no rich people to buy things, so there are no jobs. The people who will then control the "1%" are the ruling class, the people who run the government.

    Now, in your warped and twisted minds, you somehow think that these people will be benevolent rulers, and share their wealth with you, the proles. Let me ask you a question, when in history has this ever happened? Where has some ruling authority ever voluntarily shared its wealth with the masses? And if such a thing has ever happened on some small scale, did it ever result in individual success? Were people ever able to become wealthy from the crumbs tossed out by their ruling regime?

    What you retards really need to do, is go study some World History, and stop listening to propagandists who are trying their best to destroy American capitalist free enterprise. You're not doing humanity any favors here, you are pushing and pushing for a governmental system that will enslave us to the ruling class for generations to come, and destroy any possible chance for anyone to gain wealth and succeed. You will see starving children and dying old people in the streets, and there will be absolutely nothing done about it. You will see suffering on a magnitude you can't even wrap your stupid little minds around. And for what? Because you are jealous spoiled little fuckwits who just couldn't stand that some people have a better life than you.

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    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of...e_by_net_worth

    2011 Chinese billionaires list

    The following is a Forbes list of Chinese billionaires is based on an annual assessment of wealth and assets compiled and published by Forbes magazine on March 10, 2011.[1] In 2011 China has 115 billionaires which ranks second after United States.[2]

    1 Li Yanhong (Robin Li) $9.4 billion Baidu
    2 Liang Wengen (梁稳根) $8 billion internet marketing/Sany Heavy Equipment
    3 Zong Qinghou $5.9 billion Wahaha
    4 Li Li (businessman) $5.7 billion Shenzhen Hepalink
    5 He Xiangjian $5.5 billion Midea Group
    6 Wu Yajun $5.5 billion Longfor Properties
    7 Hui Ka Yan $5.1 billion Evergrande Real Estate Group
    8 Zhang Jindong $5 billion Suning Appliance
    9 Ma Huateng $5 billion Tencent
    10 Wang Jianlin $4.6 billion Dalian Wanda Group
    11 Liu Yongxing $4.5 billion Hope Group

    The following is a Forbes list of Russian billionaires is based on an annual assessment of wealth and assets compiled and published by Forbes magazine on March 10, 2012.[1] Russia had 95 billionaires in 2012.

    1 28 Alisher Usmanov steel, telecom, investments 18.1
    2 41 Vladimir Lisin steel, investments 15.9
    3 45 Alexei Mordashov investments 15.3
    4 46 Vladimir Potanin metals 14.5
    5 56 Vagit Alekperov LUKoil 13.5
    6 57 Mikhail Fridman oil, banking, telecom 13.4
    7 58 Mikhail Prokhorov investments 13.2
    8 64 Viktor Vekselberg oil, metals 12.4
    9 68 Roman Abramovich steel, investments 12.1
    10 72 Leonid Mikhelson gas, chemicals 11.9
    11 81 Andrey Melnichenko coal, fertilizers 10.8
    12 99 Gennady Timchenko oil & gas 9.1
    13 100 Dmitry Rybolovlev fertilizer 9
    14 104 Oleg Deripaska aluminum, utilities 8.8
    15 105 German Khan oil, banking, telecom 8.5
    16 110 Iskander Makhmudov mining, metals, machinery 8.2
    17 141 Mikhail Gutseriev oil, real estate 6.7
    18 141 Alexei Kuzmichev oil, banking, telecom 6.7
    19 146 Leonid Fedun Lukoil 6.5
    20 146 Suleiman Kerimov investments 6.5

    Seems as though capitalism works very well under communist and dictator govts. especially if you have dirt cheap or slave labor.

    Dixie, what is it about the Republicon party's never ending quest to drive down wages and take what little power organized labor has don't you understand?
    War Is Peace
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    Ignorance Is Strength

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    Seems as though capitalism works very well under communist and dictator govts. especially if you have dirt cheap or slave labor.
    And everyone you listed is part of the ruling class. Again... you have the "1%" in ANY system, in ours, they are private citizens engaged in free market capitalism, in the system you advocate, they are the people who make the laws and rules for everyone else to follow. Are you following me, dunderhead?

    Go research the people on your list, and tell me, how many came from humble beginnings and made their fortunes through capitalist enterprise? NONE.. they were all either born into wealth, or part of the ruling elite. Rice pickers don't become millionaires in China.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dixie View Post
    And everyone you listed is part of the ruling class. Again... you have the "1%" in ANY system, in ours, they are private citizens engaged in free market capitalism, in the system you advocate, they are the people who make the laws and rules for everyone else to follow. Are you following me, dunderhead?

    Go research the people on your list, and tell me, how many came from humble beginnings and made their fortunes through capitalist enterprise? NONE.. they were all either born into wealth, or part of the ruling elite. Rice pickers don't become millionaires in China.
    And this isn't happening in this country right now?!!! Romney and Bush weren't born into wealth? The Koch brothers aren't spending millions to manipulate our govt? Do you really think the 1% in this country don't rule?


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    The American Legislative Exchange Council (ALEC) was founded in 1973 by Henry Hyde, Lou Barnett, and Paul Weyrich, who helped build a nationwide right-wing political infrastructure following the reelection of Richard Nixon.1 In the same year, Weyrich helped establish the Heritage Foundation...

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    Oh... I found the list in 2 min, and shot down your first statement you go research the names, maybe you'll learn something about cheap labor and what your party has in store for this country.


    Dixie, what is it about the Republicon party's never ending quest to drive down wages and take what little power organized labor has don't you understand?
    War Is Peace
    Freedom Is Slavery
    Ignorance Is Strength

    George Orwell

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    Dixtard slapped hard.

    What a moron.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Crashk View Post
    And this isn't happening in this country right now?!!! Romney and Bush weren't born into wealth? The Koch brothers aren't spending millions to manipulate our govt? Do you really think the 1% in this country don't rule?
    The 99% still get to vote, but more importantly, they still have the opportunity to become part of the 1%. Romney and Bush may have been born wealthy, and their parents may have been born wealthy, but somewhere down the line, their relative were dirt poor and earned their wealth. This doesn't happen in China or Russia.

    Who Founded and Funds ALEC?
    Free market capitalists who live in a free society where men CAN do such a thing. Unlike China and Russia.

    Oh... I found the list in 2 min, and shot down your first statement you go research the names, maybe you'll learn something about cheap labor and what your party has in store for this country.
    Maybe you need to take a reading comprehension class along with World History, because you didn't shoot down a damn thing. You gave us a list of billionaires, I asked for a list of people who BECAME billionaires. So you trot off now and go try and find some of those examples, and let me know what you found.

    Dixie, what is it about the Republicon party's never ending quest to drive down wages and take what little power organized labor has don't you understand?
    I don't have anything against organized labor, again... something that does not exist in the society you advocate. Once you've helped socialists destroy the means of individuals achieving capitalist success, your "1%" who then become the ruling class, will not tolerate labor unions. You see, they can't afford to, because in order to pay for things in such a system, the ruling class will require the proles to work for slave wages, like in China and Russia. For now, they are tickled pink to have you do their bidding, and go on dreaming of some Utopian system that will never exist in reality. In fact, they have a name for you, "Useful Idiots!"

    I have a better name for you... Fucktarded Idiots!

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    There are many incidences where Chinese people, especially become rich all of a sudden. They tend to grow rapidly and jump to head straight on to the millions and then to the billions. Same is the case with Wu Yajun, a former journalist...
    Wu Yajun is the richest Chinese woman with a personal + family wealth of over 270 million Yuan. This is a lot of fortune which takes the mark up to $ 39 billion when considered in terms of U.S $ currency. As far as the childhood of Wu is to be considered, it was very poor. There were numerous families sharing only one kitchen and thus making a livelihood. But in spite of the ever growing poverty, her family tried hard and admitted her to the Xi’an University of technology. She was a bright student in the field of marine engineering...
    http://real-estate-entrepreneur.com/...woman-wu-yajun

    Alexei Mordashov biography
    Born on September 26, 1965 in Cherepovets, Russia, Alexei Mordashov Aleksandrovich grew up in a worker family in the Vologda area. He went to ENGECON which was known as Lenigrad Engineering-Economical Institute. He worked for Cherepovetskiy Metallurgical Plant as an economist right after he graduated from the institute in1988. In 2001, Mordashov earned his MBA from Northumbria University in Newcastle. While he was there, he came to most of Newcastle United football club games and became a fan of the team...
    http://sharequotes.us/alexei-mordashov-biography.html

    Here's 2 examples picked at random and researched for you Dixie. Seems as though capitalism works under any govt.

    From now on you do your own research.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Crashk View Post
    There are many incidences where Chinese people, especially become rich all of a sudden. They tend to grow rapidly and jump to head straight on to the millions and then to the billions. Same is the case with Wu Yajun, a former journalist...
    Wu Yajun is the richest Chinese woman with a personal + family wealth of over 270 million Yuan. This is a lot of fortune which takes the mark up to $ 39 billion when considered in terms of U.S $ currency. As far as the childhood of Wu is to be considered, it was very poor. There were numerous families sharing only one kitchen and thus making a livelihood. But in spite of the ever growing poverty, her family tried hard and admitted her to the Xi’an University of technology. She was a bright student in the field of marine engineering...
    http://real-estate-entrepreneur.com/...woman-wu-yajun

    Alexei Mordashov biography
    Born on September 26, 1965 in Cherepovets, Russia, Alexei Mordashov Aleksandrovich grew up in a worker family in the Vologda area. He went to ENGECON which was known as Lenigrad Engineering-Economical Institute. He worked for Cherepovetskiy Metallurgical Plant as an economist right after he graduated from the institute in1988. In 2001, Mordashov earned his MBA from Northumbria University in Newcastle. While he was there, he came to most of Newcastle United football club games and became a fan of the team...
    http://sharequotes.us/alexei-mordashov-biography.html

    Here's 2 examples picked at random and researched for you Dixie. Seems as though capitalism works under any govt.

    From now on you do your own research.
    Oh... myGod... are you serious? Do you just not recognize political propaganda at all? These are blatant examples of that! In RARE cases, the ruling class will go out and "pick" some incredibly smart individual and set them up for life, paying for education and affording special favors to the family, and then use their success as an "example" to show the world. If you read the posted biography, it is obvious the writer is trying to make a point here, to get you to believe China is a great and wonderful place which affords people the freedom to achieve. The fact that she was a "journalist" in a country where the government controls ALL media, should be evidence enough, but apparently you are too mesmerized by the fantasy to comprehend this.

    Capitalism doesn't work in a totalitarian Communist country. Not true "free market" capitalism, anyway. I give up, you are going to cling to any propaganda put out by Socialists, Communist, and Marxist, and refuse to see the light. For some unknown reason, you can't wrap your pinhead mind around the fact that these people are simply not FREE to achieve individual capitalist success. They depend solely on the government and ruling class to PICK who WINS, while the bulk of their people suffer in hopeless despair. THAT is the system you believe is better than our own, where ANY PERSON can rise up and become successful, even if they aren't hand-picked by the government to use as propaganda.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dixie View Post
    The 99% still get to vote, but more importantly, they still have the opportunity to become part of the 1%.
    I'm sure we should feel gratitude for that.

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    [QUOTE=Dixie;1064962]The 99% still get to vote, but more importantly, they still have the opportunity to become part of the 1%. Romney and Bush may have been born wealthy, and their parents may have been born wealthy, but somewhere down the line, their relative were dirt poor and earned their wealth. This doesn't happen in China or Russia.
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    No, retard, they are desended from the european royal family. They have been wealthy from time imemorial.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Crashk View Post
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of...e_by_net_worth

    2011 Chinese billionaires list

    The following is a Forbes list of Chinese billionaires is based on an annual assessment of wealth and assets compiled and published by Forbes magazine on March 10, 2011.[1] In 2011 China has 115 billionaires which ranks second after United States.[2]

    1 Li Yanhong (Robin Li) $9.4 billion Baidu
    2 Liang Wengen (梁稳根) $8 billion internet marketing/Sany Heavy Equipment
    3 Zong Qinghou $5.9 billion Wahaha
    4 Li Li (businessman) $5.7 billion Shenzhen Hepalink
    5 He Xiangjian $5.5 billion Midea Group
    6 Wu Yajun $5.5 billion Longfor Properties
    7 Hui Ka Yan $5.1 billion Evergrande Real Estate Group
    8 Zhang Jindong $5 billion Suning Appliance
    9 Ma Huateng $5 billion Tencent
    10 Wang Jianlin $4.6 billion Dalian Wanda Group
    11 Liu Yongxing $4.5 billion Hope Group

    The following is a Forbes list of Russian billionaires is based on an annual assessment of wealth and assets compiled and published by Forbes magazine on March 10, 2012.[1] Russia had 95 billionaires in 2012.

    1 28 Alisher Usmanov steel, telecom, investments 18.1
    2 41 Vladimir Lisin steel, investments 15.9
    3 45 Alexei Mordashov investments 15.3
    4 46 Vladimir Potanin metals 14.5
    5 56 Vagit Alekperov LUKoil 13.5
    6 57 Mikhail Fridman oil, banking, telecom 13.4
    7 58 Mikhail Prokhorov investments 13.2
    8 64 Viktor Vekselberg oil, metals 12.4
    9 68 Roman Abramovich steel, investments 12.1
    10 72 Leonid Mikhelson gas, chemicals 11.9
    11 81 Andrey Melnichenko coal, fertilizers 10.8
    12 99 Gennady Timchenko oil & gas 9.1
    13 100 Dmitry Rybolovlev fertilizer 9
    14 104 Oleg Deripaska aluminum, utilities 8.8
    15 105 German Khan oil, banking, telecom 8.5
    16 110 Iskander Makhmudov mining, metals, machinery 8.2
    17 141 Mikhail Gutseriev oil, real estate 6.7
    18 141 Alexei Kuzmichev oil, banking, telecom 6.7
    19 146 Leonid Fedun Lukoil 6.5
    20 146 Suleiman Kerimov investments 6.5

    Seems as though capitalism works very well under communist and dictator govts. especially if you have dirt cheap or slave labor.

    Dixie, what is it about the Republicon party's never ending quest to drive down wages and take what little power organized labor has don't you understand?
    There is more in common between Li Yan Hong and the Koch brothers than there will ever be between the Koch brothers and the average American. Neither is on the side of honesty.
    http://www.justplainpolitics.com/blog.php?u=237
    If you feel so inclined a comment would be appreciated.

    Respect a believers right to believe, but they should damn well repect our right to challenge such utterly illogical notions.


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    No, retard, they are desended from the european royal family. They have been wealthy from time imemorial.
    Really? Oprah Winfrey descended from European royalty?

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