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    Quote Originally Posted by Waterfart View Post
    Calling everyone from the UK "English" is insulting to the Scottish, Welsh, and Irish, and embarrassing to the English. Great Britian is slightly less ignorant, because it does at least include some minorities, but it does exclude the Irish. It's like calling every latino you see a Mexican. Are you honestly saying that, if you were a Scottish person living in the UK, you would find it no slight at all that people were constantly referring to your nationality as English and your country as England? It would really be kind of bizarre, and speak of a total lack of national pride, for them to not be peeved.
    Until comparatively recently the whole country was known as England and it was only the modern penchent for an imagined independence that brought us to this state. I'm told (but have not read the book) that Winston S Churchill's tome The History of the English Speaking Peoples referred to the entire nation as England.
    Of course we haven't always been England. We were invaded by the frogs in 1066 and subsequently our crown ruled over parts of Frogland and our official language (until the 14C) was Frog. Prior to the invasion by Norman the Bastard we were constantly being invaded by Germanic and Scandinavian tribes known as the Vikings. The latter, not trusting the woad covered and simple Brits, brought all their own furniture. No examples now exist since they found that each flat pack had a part missing and therefore had to be discarded.
    We were several countries then, Northumbria, Mercia, Wessex to name but three. It was King Athelstan, the son or grandson of Alfred the Great (who did not burn cakes) who first united England and had we had a better internet connection at the time we probably could have better organised ourselves against the frog hoardes.

    It was the discovery of oil in the North Sea that brought nationalism to the fore.
    I actually KNOW some Scots and I take delight in sharing their pride by congratulating them for living in Englands largest county. Whether they are pleased or annoyed at this is difficult to say since their accents are so marked that one can only wonder that they know each others names.
    Of course Scotland is named after the invaders from the northern part of Ireland, the Scotus who ran the Picts of town. S Johnson, in his dictionary entry for 'oats' describes it as a food that is grown for and fed to horses but which is eaten by the people in Scotland. Sums it up really.
    When we were young, teachers and parents told us to dot all our 'i's and to cross all our 't's. Failure to do this results in the language of Wales and the Welsh. The Welsh sing a lot and, it is said, form rather strong relationships with their sheep. The Welsh tend to be a dark and swarthy race with much facial hair, dark eyebrows and luxuriant moustaches. The Welsh men lack beards.
    Ireland is best left to its own devices and periodically, throughout history, their population is culled for their own good.
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    can someone tell me how the welsh are different from the english? I get the scotts being separate, get the irish. Don't know shit about the welsh though.

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    Quote Originally Posted by King of Owls View Post
    can someone tell me how the welsh are different from the english? I get the scotts being separate, get the irish. Don't know shit about the welsh though.
    They're Welsh. The English as we know them come from the Norman conquest. Later they conquered the Welsh. Like the Bretons don't consider themselves French.
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    Quote Originally Posted by BAN HAMMER View Post
    They're Welsh. The English as we know them come from the Norman conquest and Saxon natives. Later they conquered the Welsh. Like the Bretons don't consider themselves French.
    Forgot about the Saxons.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lowaicue View Post
    Until comparatively recently the whole country was known as England and it was only the modern penchent for an imagined independence that brought us to this state. I'm told (but have not read the book) that Winston S Churchill's tome The History of the English Speaking Peoples referred to the entire nation as England.
    Of course we haven't always been England. We were invaded by the frogs in 1066 and subsequently our crown ruled over parts of Frogland and our official language (until the 14C) was Frog. Prior to the invasion by Norman the Bastard we were constantly being invaded by Germanic and Scandinavian tribes known as the Vikings. The latter, not trusting the woad covered and simple Brits, brought all their own furniture. No examples now exist since they found that each flat pack had a part missing and therefore had to be discarded.
    We were several countries then, Northumbria, Mercia, Wessex to name but three. It was King Athelstan, the son or grandson of Alfred the Great (who did not burn cakes) who first united England and had we had a better internet connection at the time we probably could have better organised ourselves against the frog hoardes.

    It was the discovery of oil in the North Sea that brought nationalism to the fore.
    I actually KNOW some Scots and I take delight in sharing their pride by congratulating them for living in Englands largest county. Whether they are pleased or annoyed at this is difficult to say since their accents are so marked that one can only wonder that they know each others names.
    Of course Scotland is named after the invaders from the northern part of Ireland, the Scotus who ran the Picts of town. S Johnson, in his dictionary entry for 'oats' describes it as a food that is grown for and fed to horses but which is eaten by the people in Scotland. Sums it up really.
    When we were young, teachers and parents told us to dot all our 'i's and to cross all our 't's. Failure to do this results in the language of Wales and the Welsh. The Welsh sing a lot and, it is said, form rather strong relationships with their sheep. The Welsh tend to be a dark and swarthy race with much facial hair, dark eyebrows and luxuriant moustaches. The Welsh men lack beards.
    Ireland is best left to its own devices and periodically, throughout history, their population is culled for their own good.
    Except the Normans weren't French. They were Viking settlers. They hadn't even been in NORMANDY for a century. And France was hardly France at the time, seeing as the Burgundians existed.
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    Quote Originally Posted by BAN HAMMER View Post
    Except the Normans weren't French. They were Viking settlers. They hadn't even been in NORMANDY for a century. And France was hardly France at the time, seeing as the Burgundians existed.
    Didn't say anything about the French.
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    Quote Originally Posted by BAN HAMMER View Post
    Except the Normans weren't French. They were Viking settlers. They hadn't even been in NORMANDY for a century. And France was hardly France at the time, seeing as the Burgundians existed.
    I am quite surprised that you haven't defended IKEA.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lowaicue View Post
    I am quite surprised that you haven't defended IKEA.
    The Swedes have distinguished themselves significantly from their Norwegian brothers. Also, fuck IKEA.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lowaicue View Post
    Didn't say anything about the French.
    No, you made mention of "frogs" a disparaging term used by butt-hurt English for the mighty French.
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    Quote Originally Posted by BAN HAMMER View Post
    Except the Normans weren't French. They were Viking settlers. They hadn't even been in NORMANDY for a century. And France was hardly France at the time, seeing as the Burgundians existed.
    Technically, though, the English kings were vassals of the French kings well into the High Middle Ages.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Paranoid Android View Post
    Technically, though, the English kings were vassals of the French kings well into the High Middle Ages.

    OHHHHHHHHHHHHHH; that's going to leave a scar.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Paranoid Android View Post
    Technically, though, the English kings were vassals of the French kings well into the High Middle Ages.
    Succession was a tricky thing. Keeping track of claims is fucking difficult.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Paranoid Android View Post
    Since the 15th Century, however, the English have dominated The French in every way possible, so they have more than made up for the humiliation.

    That a fact eh? I don't think so Tim.
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    Quote Originally Posted by BAN HAMMER View Post
    Except the Normans weren't French. They were Viking settlers. They hadn't even been in NORMANDY for a century. And France was hardly France at the time, seeing as the Burgundians existed.
    My little detour into the ridiculous was not intended to be historically accurate. I guess that's where yanks get it all wrong, you know like believing that they won the second world war and believing that the US is/was the best nation in the world because they believe their own propaganda.
    Once again I would recommend Jon Stuart to those Americans who, like yourself, lack the ability to smile ... particularly at themselves.
    Still, don't lose any sleep over it, old chum. There are greater things to concern you, I'm sure. Did you fix the wheel on your new house yet?
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