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    Quote Originally Posted by annata View Post
    if that is your bifggest riticism of the piece *shrug* - it's hyperboyle -but doesn't change the story.
    first, i do not support the war anymore

    second, how do you fight a war without killing people when your enemy hides among civilians

    third, the taliban/al qaeda have killed more afghan civilians than we/nato have

    all that we can do now is admit that the war was a mistake and withdraw
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    Quote Originally Posted by Darla View Post
    From the right, but the left did have a lot to say then. Of course Obama pushed it open further and the next President will do the same, and so on...that's why this was always incredibly dangerous. This unitary executive theory, which I believe led to this.
    Which is the reason Obama completely dropped the ball by not prosecuting Bush administration war criminals. He left the door open to both future abuse as well as additional expansion of executive power.
    I am deeply disapointed in him for this.
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    Quote Originally Posted by annata View Post
    how do you edit a post for spelling?
    On every post, on the bottom right, there is a "reply" option and a "reply with quote" option. On your own posts, also on the bottom right, the very first option before reply and reply with quote, is "edit". Click on that, make your changes, and then "save" them.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Darla View Post
    On every post, on the bottom right, there is a "reply" option and a "reply with quote" option. On your own posts, also on the bottom right, the very first option before reply and reply with quote, is "edit". Click on that, make your changes, and then "save" them.
    Edit feature is unavailable until a certain number of posts is reached, perhaps 15 or so. Maybe 10. Just keep posting and then go back and edit lkater when you hjave the priveledge.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rune View Post
    Edit feature is unavailable until a certain number of posts is reached, perhaps 15 or so. Maybe 10. Just keep posting and then go back and edit lkater when you hjave the priveledge.
    Oh really, I didn't know that.
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    Quote Originally Posted by annata View Post
    how do you edit a post for spelling?
    Once you hit 15 posts you will be able to edit your own posts (after the system finally gets around to upgrading you to verified user)...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Don Quixote View Post
    first, i do not support the war anymore

    second, how do you fight a war without killing people when your enemy hides among civilians

    third, the taliban/al qaeda have killed more afghan civilians than we/nato have

    all that we can do now is admit that the war was a mistake and withdraw
    I'm not sure -where do you get the figures the Taliban eclipses the US in AfPak deaths?

    Anyways say you're correct, this war on terror is what bin Laden wanted -an eternal campaign -you can't kill them all at one time, so they move, and reform.

    The DENIAL we're killing civilians was problematic enough, but collateral damage just radicalizes the populations more.
    ( how would you like it if it happened to your family.

    Yes it's a mistake, no it's not going to end, even AfPak "support" is scheduled to go past 2020 -we're involved in that region, we're going to see more and more.

    One day soon other natons wil l have drones..then when we get hit "oh well".


    I don't think it's possible to stop this now, it's too ingrained, been going on for too long, Enjoy the Crusades, they're gona be here a long time -even 'after' AfPak

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    Quote Originally Posted by annata View Post
    I'm not sure -where do you get the figures the Taliban eclipses the US in AfPak deaths?

    Anyways say you're correct, this war on terror is what bin Laden wanted -an eternal campaign -you can't kill them all at one time, so they move, and reform.

    The DENIAL we're killing civilians was problematic enough, but collateral damage just radicalizes the populations more.
    ( how would you like it if it happened to your family.

    Yes it's a mistake, no it's not going to end, even AfPak "support" is scheduled to go past 2020 -we're involved in that region, we're going to see more and more.

    One day soon other natons wil l have drones..then when we get hit "oh well".


    I don't think it's possible to stop this now, it's too ingrained, been going on for too long, Enjoy the Crusades, they're gona be here a long time -even 'after' AfPak
    funny that we cannot stop is what they said about iraq

    i just wish that we could bet our sooner and start some nation building at home
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    Quote Originally Posted by Darla View Post
    I haven't seen this major story discussed much here, if at all? I am not sure if anyone else posted it, but of course I read it elsewhere. I think it's because the left doesn't want to post about it because it reflects badly on Obama, and the right doesn't want to post about it because in their minds, it reflects well on him. I mean, it's certainly something they would fully support if a Republican were doing it, so...

    It's amazing that a President has taken this much power onto himself that he is personally ordering executions and there is a collective shrug in many, though far from all, corners. I wonder if Democrats (I doubt anyone on the actual left supports this) defending this ever think about this power in the hands of a right wing President? IT's so strange they "trust" Obama with this power, well if you trust him you have to be willing to trust all who follow because if he can do it so can they. And trusting anyone with this is just a result of the cult of personality anyway.
    I don't trust any of them with this type of power and it is one of the things about our country that greatly disappoints me.

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    Quote Originally Posted by annata View Post
    I think it's 5, i just read TOS. do I'm good thanks -never thought of that
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    Quote Originally Posted by annata View Post
    how do you edit a post for spelling?
    At the bottom of each post there is an edit option.

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    Well, actually, militiants, but whatever. They'll usually specificy "militiants" in their casualty figures, and all "militiant" means in this context is a young male of indeterminant guilt.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rana View Post
    I don't trust any of them with this type of power and it is one of the things about our country that greatly disappoints me.
    I wonder how long before they use them in the US?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Don Quixote View Post

    second, how do you fight a war without killing people when your enemy hides among civilians
    There will always be collateral damage. Simply labeling any young males who you happened to kill as "militiants", and thus not civilians, is a rather sloppy practice, though.
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    http://worldnews.msnbc.msn.com/_news...hole-city?lite

    "Now we are in a city, it is a natural city, people are living in the city, having the normal life," journalist Ghaith Abdul-Ahad said in Jaar. "Yet at the same time this is al-Qaida. And they just control a whole city."

    'Puppet' and 'Stooge': al-Qaida chief al-Zawahiri issues message on Yemen

    The journalists also interviewed refugees who had fled fighting between militants and the army.


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    A member of militant group Ansar al-Sharia stands next to an al-Qaida flag at a checkpoint in the southern town of Azzan, Yemen, on March 31.
    One woman who left her home with her family because of the clashes, wiped away tears and said: "The army and security forces made it worse instead of protecting us."

    Al-Qaida-linked militants seized large swathes of territory in southern Yemen last year as then-President Ali Abdullah Saleh grappled with protesters demanding his overthrow. Saleh quit last November in favor of his deputy, Abd-Rabbu Hadi Mansour.

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