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    Default CBS/NYT poll has surprising results...

    From what we've heard in the past month, Obama should be shooting up in the polls due to sudden and unswerving new support from women.

    However, in the last month in the CBS/NYT poll Obama has dropped by 9 points suffering the drop not only for gas prices, but also for foreign policy, jobs and the economy.

    http://s3.documentcloud.org/document...s-cbs-poll.pdf
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    we'll see come november. i think when it comes down to it, given the current gop crop, obama will win.

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    If the election were held today, Mitt would win... Santorum would lose...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Damocles View Post
    From what we've heard in the past month, Obama should be shooting up in the polls due to sudden and unswerving new support from women.

    However, in the last month in the CBS/NYT poll Obama has dropped by 9 points suffering the drop not only for gas prices, but also for foreign policy, jobs and the economy.

    http://s3.documentcloud.org/document...s-cbs-poll.pdf
    i think that the voters are a bit crazy or schizophrenic and childish, but what else is new
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    I find question 15 the most interesting. More people in that poll favor Santorum than Romney. Dixie is right, if Newt got out, Romney would lose.

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    Romney might sway independents but he appeals less to republicans, Santorum has the radical right but is repugnant to everyone else.

    IE everyone who doesn't think that the constitution should remove the 1st amendment in favor of Catholicism
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    Quote Originally Posted by Damocles View Post
    If the election were held today, Mitt would win... Santorum would lose...

    According to the poll that you posted, if the election were held today Obama would beat both of them.

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    Mitt's fighting for his life in some of these primaries - including states that he should be running away with.

    I seriously doubt he'd beat Obama today. The WH has no fear of Mitt. The only thing they really fear right now is the rising price of gas.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Don Quixote View Post
    i think that the voters are a bit crazy or schizophrenic and childish, but what else is new
    If gas prices go up more Obama loses unless the economy is way better. The recent polls show 66% know Obama is restricting oil supply. There aren't enough of you smug mobile drivers to offset regular folk.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Onceler View Post
    Mitt's fighting for his life in some of these primaries - including states that he should be running away with.

    I seriously doubt he'd beat Obama today. The WH has no fear of Mitt. The only thing they really fear right now is the rising price of gas.
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    In a hypothetical general election matchup, Mitt Romney and President Obama are tied at 45% apiece.

    http://www.rasmussenreports.com/public_content/politics/obama_administration/daily_presidential_tracking_poll

    That's with romney getting beat up on every single day while obama stays mostly out of the fray. The whitehouse is scared shitless of a romney run. That's why every liberal in america is praying for santorum to win, even though he wont.


    Ask voters which presidential contender’s views are more like their own, and just 37% say President Obama. Most (53%) say they think more like one of the four Republican presidential hopefuls. A new Rasmussen Reports national telephone survey finds that 16% of Likely U.S. Voters say when it comes to the important issues facing the nation, their views are more like former Massachusetts Governor Mitt Romney’s.

    http://www.rasmussenreports.com/public_content/politics/elections/election_2012/election_2012_presidential_election/march_2012/37_say_their_views_more_like_obama_s_53_pick_one_o f_gop_contenders

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    Quote Originally Posted by They're gonna put it down View Post
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    http://www.rasmussenreports.com/public_content/politics/obama_administration/daily_presidential_tracking_poll

    If Rasmussen has Romney tied with Obama, that means Romney is losing.


    Quote Originally Posted by They're gonna put it down View Post
    That's with romney getting beat up on every single day while obama stays mostly out of the fray. The whitehouse is scared shitless of a romney run. That's why every liberal in america is praying for santorum to win, even though he wont.


    http://www.rasmussenreports.com/public_content/politics/elections/election_2012/election_2012_presidential_election/march_2012/37_say_their_views_more_like_obama_s_53_pick_one_o f_gop_contenders

    I don't know about scared shitless, but I think the Obama camp rightly believes that Santorum would be much easier to beat.

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    Quote Originally Posted by General Buck Turgidson View Post
    According to the poll that you posted, if the election were held today Obama would beat both of them.
    Actually, according to the poll I posted there is a statistical tie (easily within the margin of error) even though Rs were underrepresented in the polling pool.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Yurt View Post
    we'll see come november. i think when it comes down to it, given the current gop crop, obama will win.
    I agree. I think the current crop has ran to far to the right and hurt themselves. I think you have to be careful also when looking at poll numbers in that you have to evaluate them not only on how they impact the popular vote but the electoral vote as well. Even if Obama's popularity in California or New York is currently declining does anyone seriously think Romney will win either of these States?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Damocles View Post
    If the election were held today, Mitt would win... Santorum would lose...
    I think you're wrong. I think Mitt would lose and Santorum would get crushed in a landslide. The poll you site shows a clear advantage for Obama over Romney by 3 pts. That's right at the margin of error. The RCP average favors Obama at 2.7 point advantage. Again, these numbers don't reflect on the electoral calculus where if you look at the swing States Obama is showing a small but clear advantage in 7 of the 10 swing states.

    You're also failing to look at the polling numbers for women (you do seem to have a habit of discounting them). In the last few months Obama's general approval rating with women has jumped by 10%. Not only that but Obama has a clear cut lead over Romney, that is well outside the margin of error, with women voters 54% to 41% lead over Romney. Romney should be extremely worried by this!

    http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epo...bama-1171.html
    http://www.wjla.com/articles/2012/02...ws--73117.html
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    Quote Originally Posted by Damocles View Post
    Actually, according to the poll I posted there is a statistical tie (easily within the margin of error) even though Rs were underrepresented in the polling pool.

    So . . . we're both wrong!

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