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    Quote Originally Posted by icedancer2theend View Post
    Yes, lets skip potential catastrophic debt so the government can deny you absolute care based on their criteria.
    Insurance companies make those decisions now, and their decisions are actually based on maximizing profit, which usually doesn't come down in a patient's favor.

    If you don't have insurance, good luck - you won't even get to that point.

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    Obama wants to abort the unborn and euthanize the inconvenient.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Onceler View Post
    Insurance companies make those decisions now, and their decisions are actually based on maximizing profit, which usually doesn't come down in a patient's favor.

    If you don't have insurance, good luck - you won't even get to that point.
    Not true- while it is true you may not get the best care, you cannot be denied emergency room care. Under obamacare you will be forced into a program that may deny you care based on things such as type of disease and your age! Remember one of Obama's selling points was to get rid of costly emergency room care in leau of government health care. Why would you support such a system-? btw I note you failed to comment that Palin was correct in her assessments on death panels.
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    Quote Originally Posted by icedancer2theend View Post
    Apologists for Obama's death panels... oh yeah~
    Why don't you try replacing your child brain with an adult one?

    HERE is your death panel Commander in Chief...



    The U.S. Preventive Services Task Force (USPSTF), first convened by the U.S. Public Health Service in 1984

    http://www.medscape.com/viewarticle/716001
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bfgrn View Post
    Why don't you try replacing your child brain with an adult one?
    bfgrn- apologist in chief jumps into thread with dead link

    Reagan did not pass a bill forcing people into a health care system... Obama did. Can you try to take your head out of the collective democrat ass and take a breath of air for a change?

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    Quote Originally Posted by icedancer2theend View Post
    Not true- while it is true you may not get the best care, you cannot be denied emergency room care. Under obamacare you will be forced into a program that may deny you care based on things such as type of disease and your age! Remember one of Obama's selling points was to get rid of costly emergency room care in leau of government health care. Why would you support such a system-? btw I note you failed to comment that Palin was correct in her assessments on death panels.
    It's not true that insurance companies can deny you coverage?

    You are an absolute, unmitigated dope.

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    Quote Originally Posted by icedancer2theend View Post
    bfgrn- apologist in chief jumps into thread with dead link

    Reagan did not pass a bill forcing people into a health care system... Obama did. Can you try to take your head out of the collective democrat ass and take a breath of air for a change?
    Obama and the Democrats did NOT force anyone into a health care 'system'. The 'system' is the same 'system' that existed before Obama took office.

    Are you really THAT stupid?

    BTW, here is the title of the article. It did not ask me for a log in.

    U.S. Task Force Leads the Way on Prevention Recommendations: Basing Public Health Decisions on Science
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bfgrn View Post
    Obama and the Democrats did NOT force anyone into a health care 'system'. The 'system' is the same 'system' that existed before Obama took office.

    Are you really THAT stupid?
    No, you are the apologist airing your stupidity- Obamacare was not the system in place prior to his taking office...

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    Quote Originally Posted by icedancer2theend View Post
    Apologists for Obama's death panels... oh yeah~
    It's like a freaking Chinese Resturant.
    I'll take 1 from column A and two from column C
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    ID- the woman most obsessed with guzzling cum on these boards...

    If only she'd learned how to suppress that gag reflex, she might have been able to keep one of the three exes...LOL!
    It's obvious your wife has overcome her gag reflex, or else she wouldn't be able to look at you.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ZappasGuitar View Post
    ID- the woman most obsessed with guzzling cum on these boards...

    If only she'd learned how to suppress that gag reflex, she might have been able to keep one of the three exes...LOL!
    nice vulgarities you fucking whiny hypocrite

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    Quote Originally Posted by Onceler View Post
    Well, I suppose that's true on some level; you do have the option to skip private insurance, and risk catastrophic debt every day...
    on some level? it is true....but you just have to mince words

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    Quote Originally Posted by icedancer2theend View Post
    No, you are the apologist airing your stupidity- Obamacare was not the system in place prior to his taking office...
    REALLY? Did Obama hire his own doctors? Did Obama build his own hospitals?? Did Obama start his own insurance company???

    What we got from Obama and the Democrats was the 'free market' solution. NO single payer, NO public option. As a matter of FACT, the bill Obama signed is almost identical to the bill Republicans proposed in 1993. Including the BIG Republican idea: THE INDIVIDUAL MANDATE
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bfgrn View Post
    REALLY? Did Obama hire his own doctors? Did Obama build his own hospitals?? Did Obama start his own insurance company???

    What we got from Obama and the Democrats was the 'free market' solution. NO single payer, NO public option. As a matter of FACT, the bill Obama signed is almost identical to the bill Republicans proposed in 1993. Including the BIG Republican idea: THE INDIVIDUAL MANDATE
    This is patently stupid- Did Obama sign a health care bill that is now the law, in which were created panels to deny coverage? YES

    You and other Obama apologists desire to ignore the foundation of this argument- namely Obama has set up a system that will be denying coverage based on type of illness and age of patients is EXACTLY what Palin accused him of. This is what you and others derided her for as being lies.

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    Quote Originally Posted by icedancer2theend View Post
    This is patently stupid- Did Obama sign a health care bill that is now the law, in which were created panels to deny coverage? YES

    You and other Obama apologists desire to ignore the foundation of this argument- namely Obama has set up a system that will be denying coverage based on type of illness and age of patients is EXACTLY what Palin accused him of. This is what you and others derided her for as being lies.
    Absolutely NOT. Palin LIED.

    2009 Lie of the Year: 'Death panels'



    2010 Lie of the Year: 'A government takeover of health care'

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