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    Quote Originally Posted by Yurt View Post
    so you can't cite to where it pertains to citizens....
    If you cannot make or import an item yurt, how am I to own it? Do I conjure it from nothing?
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    Quote Originally Posted by General Sheridan View Post
    If you cannot make or import an item yurt, how am I to own it? Do I conjure it from nothing?
    still can't cite where US citizens can't own nukes.....

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    Quote Originally Posted by Yurt View Post
    still can't cite where US citizens can't own nukes.....
    When you tell me where I'm to get one, ill happily cite the treaty. Hell, ill steal the original treaty itself and youtube I for you.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Yurt View Post
    oh, so you do believe the second amendment has limits....
    I think it's safe to say that any weapon that can kill thousands or millions of people shouldn't be legal. It's kind of a no-brainer, Yurt.
    "We know that no one ever seizes power with the intention of relinquishing it. Power is not a means, it is an end. One does not establish a dictatorship in order to safeguard a revolution; one makes the revolution in order to establish the dictatorship. The object of persecution is persecution. The object of torture is torture. The object of power is power." -O'Brien, Nineteen Eighty-Four

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    How are the people supposed to fight off a government that has nukes without them? Without the freedom to own a nuclear weapon, there is no freedom.
    "Do not think that I came to bring peace... I did not come to bring peace, but a sword." - Matthew 10:34

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    Quote Originally Posted by General Sherman View Post
    How are the people supposed to fight off a government that has nukes without them? Without the freedom to own a nuclear weapon, there is no freedom.
    It would be counterproductive for a tyrannical government to use nuclear weapons against its own people. For that reason alone, it is highly unlikely to occur. However, that argument could be reasonably applied to military weaponry such as tanks, mortars, etc.
    "We know that no one ever seizes power with the intention of relinquishing it. Power is not a means, it is an end. One does not establish a dictatorship in order to safeguard a revolution; one makes the revolution in order to establish the dictatorship. The object of persecution is persecution. The object of torture is torture. The object of power is power." -O'Brien, Nineteen Eighty-Four

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    Quote Originally Posted by General Sheridan View Post
    So, if the GOVERNMENT isn't the one suppressing this citizens rights, who is?
    History, for the most part, tkae for example the Brady Bill, named after James Brady, Reagan's press secretary who was shot in 1981. The bill is designed to limit the gun purchases and slaes to dangerous individuals. legislation gets passed because people thought there was a need for it. And no it's not "big business" because they'd love if people bought more guns, that's more money for them.
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    Quote Originally Posted by General Burnside View Post
    I think it's safe to say that any weapon that can kill thousands or millions of people shouldn't be legal. It's kind of a no-brainer, Yurt.
    The Constitution was set up to allow us Letters of marque. How would one go about obtaining such a letter without a warship? In modern parlance that would allow us aicraft carriers.
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    Quote Originally Posted by General Burnside View Post
    It would be counterproductive for a tyrannical government to use nuclear weapons against its own people. For that reason alone, it is highly unlikely to occur. However, that argument could be reasonably applied to military weaponry such as tanks, mortars, etc.
    All of which are currently legal.
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    Quote Originally Posted by General Sheridan View Post
    All of which are currently legal.
    Please locate somebody willing to spend over 80 million on a tank, and somebody willing to sell it to them.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Disillusioned View Post
    History, for the most part, tkae for example the Brady Bill, named after James Brady, Reagan's press secretary who was shot in 1981. The bill is designed to limit the gun purchases and slaes to dangerous individuals. legislation gets passed because people thought there was a need for it. And no it's not "big business" because they'd love if people bought more guns, that's more money for them.
    the problem with this rationale is that by trying to limit 'dangerous' people, it infringes on the rights of everyone else that isn't dangerous, not that I don't think everyone should be thought to be dangerous. Being thought of as 'dangerous' necessarily requires more careful consideration in dealing with that individual.
    A sad commentary on we, as a people, and our viewpoint of our freedom can be summed up like this. We have liberals and conservatives, Democrats and Republicans, yet those very people look at Constitutionalists as radical and extreme.................so those liberals and conservatives, Democrats and Republicans must believe that the constitution is radical and extreme.

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    Quote Originally Posted by General Sheridan View Post
    The Constitution was set up to allow us Letters of marque. How would one go about obtaining such a letter without a warship? In modern parlance that would allow us aicraft carriers.
    It's pointless to even discuss. Only a handful of people in the US could even afford an aircraft carrier, considering they cost around $10 billion. And that's assuming an uber wealthy individual has $10 billion in readily transferable capital, which is highly unlikely.
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    Quote Originally Posted by General Burnside View Post
    It's pointless to even discuss. Only a handful of people in the US could even afford an aircraft carrier, considering they cost around $10 billion. And that's assuming an uber wealthy individual has $10 billion in readily transferable capital, which is highly unlikely.
    For a modern carrier yes, but say a WWII carrier. Those could be had for a few million (all were scrapped as far as I know though). That's well within the realm of possibilities.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Disillusioned View Post
    Please locate somebody willing to spend over 80 million on a tank, and somebody willing to sell it to them.
    Google The Big Sandy Shoot. Or Youtube it. More than a hand full of tank/artillery owners, actually firng said items (though mostly its machine guns).
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