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    Default Is this the first rap song?

    This is a real oddity from the 70s, it was intended to be a demonstration of how American sounds to foreign ears, specifically Italian. The words are nonsense, but then how many songs can you hear the lyrics clearly anyway?




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    It's got a nice beat, I give it a six.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rana View Post
    It's got a nice beat, I give it a six.
    I think it's a lot better than that, considering most of the crap that comes out these days. Anyway that's beside the real point, which is did the Italians invent rap in 1971?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Aoxomoxoa View Post
    I think it's a lot better than that, considering most of the crap that comes out these days. Anyway that's beside the real point, which is did the Italians invent rap in 1971?
    No, I don't think I you could call it rap.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rana View Post
    No, I don't think I you could call it rap.
    Older folks just don't appreciate the art form called rap. It is the poetic expression that was born on the street corner. It takes more skill than you realize and they use the vernacular of the streets. I remember my dad telling me to turn off the Moody Blues and try listening to the Mills Brothers. It is a generational thing.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Aoxomoxoa View Post
    I think it's a lot better than that, considering most of the crap that comes out these days. Anyway that's beside the real point, which is did the Italians invent rap in 1971?
    I always thought rap was an evolution of those nice Jamaican gents and their good-natured dance hall toasting, back in the day, don't you know?

    Without the likes of King Tubbys and Dennis Alcapones there would be none of your MC Hammers or Vanilla Ices.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rana View Post
    Older folks just don't appreciate the art form called rap. It is the poetic expression that was born on the street corner. It takes more skill than you realize and they use the vernacular of the streets. I remember my dad telling me to turn off the Moody Blues and try listening to the Mills Brothers. It is a generational thing.
    I didn't say I hated all rap, I especially liked this reworking of It's Like That. Anyway, I hadn't realised that the mean streets of Anchorage gave you such a profound insight into the vagaries of the rap genre.

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    Quote Originally Posted by charver View Post
    I always thought rap was an evolution of those nice Jamaican gents and their good-natured dance hall toasting, back in the day, don't you know?

    Without the likes of King Tubbys and Dennis Alcapones there would be none of your MC Hammers or Vanilla Ices.
    Ah toasting, I'd forgotten about that altogether.

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    are you discounting Psalm 22?
    Isaiah 6:5
    “Woe to me!” I cried. “I am ruined! For I am a man of unclean lips, and I live among a people of unclean lips, and my eyes have seen the King, the Lord Almighty.”

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    Quote Originally Posted by PostmodernProphet View Post
    are you discounting Psalm 22?
    So what's your point?

    Psalm 22:1-8 in the St. Albans Psalter. The first words of the Psalm in the Latin Vulgate are "Deus, Deus meus," abbreviated here as DS DS MS.


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    David didn't speak Latin.....
    Isaiah 6:5
    “Woe to me!” I cried. “I am ruined! For I am a man of unclean lips, and I live among a people of unclean lips, and my eyes have seen the King, the Lord Almighty.”

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