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    Class envy and class war is a Communistic tactic to cause hate and discontent in a population.....a means to instigate outright mayhem and conflict within the population.

    Making the rich poor will not make the poor rich......

    Confiscating a citizens wealth will just destroy wealth, all wealth.

    Terrorism, war, social spending has created enormous debt under Bush and under Obama with no end in sight.....

    Un-necessary regulation drives jobs off shore and raises unemployment.

    Refusal to utilize our own natural resources is stupid in the extreme

    Spending in all areas needs to be brought under control, there are no "sacred cows".....

    Neglecting these concerns, will cause more economic trouble.....

    The focus should be on investment and jobs, NOT cradle to grave type social programs.

    By itself, higher taxes on high-income individuals will not solve the nation’s long-run deficit problems, it will only kill more jobs......

    Spending by the Department of Defense should be controled as it should be everywhere....Government size must be reduced

    Government programs that are wasteful or ineffective should be eliminated.

    But we cannot ask for shared sacrifice while exempting half the population and laying the burden at the feet of the best and brightest workers and producers everyone much share the burden.....
    Put blame where it belongs
    ATF decided it could not regulate bump stocks during the Obama administration.
    It that time," the NRA wrote in a statement. "The NRA believes that devices designed to allow semiautomatic rifles to function like fully-automatic rifles should be subject to additional regulations."
    The ATF and Obama admin. ignored the NRA recommendations.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Return of Dune View Post
    Are you frigging drunk?
    If tax cuts produce prosperity, why did Bush leave with the economy in a shambles?
    The cause of the meltdown and Bush's attempt to prevent it......

    The Bush administration pushed for significantly increased regulation of Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac in 2003, but after two years, the regulations passed the House but died in the Senate.

    Among the groups denouncing the proposal today were the National Association of Home Builders and Congressional Democrats who fear that tighter regulation of the companies could sharply reduce their commitment to financing low-income and affordable housing.

    ''These two entities -- Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac -- are not facing any kind of financial crisis,'' said Representative Barney Frank of Massachusetts, the ranking Democrat on the Financial Services Committee. ''
    Representative Melvin L. Watt, Democrat of North Carolina, agreed.


    Barney Frank in 2005: What Housing Bubble?

    Barney Frank Caught Lying About Fannie Mae

    Don't Regulate Fannie Mae or Freddy Mac
    Put blame where it belongs
    ATF decided it could not regulate bump stocks during the Obama administration.
    It that time," the NRA wrote in a statement. "The NRA believes that devices designed to allow semiautomatic rifles to function like fully-automatic rifles should be subject to additional regulations."
    The ATF and Obama admin. ignored the NRA recommendations.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Return of Dune View Post
    Are you frigging drunk?
    If tax cuts produce prosperity, why did Bush leave with the economy in a shambles?
    why is dune so obsessed with people being drunk? projection?

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    Quote Originally Posted by \(\(())/)/ View Post
    The GOP says tax cuts create jobs.

    They don't.

    Tax cuts create deficits.
    so when obama and the libs promised jobs, especially since they would and have CONTROLLED the WH and congress for two years................where are the jobs?

    oh wait...........you never criticize libs.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Yurt View Post
    why is dune so obsessed with people being drunk? projection?
    Why is yurt so obsessed with Dune? Man-love?
    It is the responsibility of every American citizen to own a modern military rifle.

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    Obama promised 8% unemployment......where the fuck are the jobs.
    Put blame where it belongs
    ATF decided it could not regulate bump stocks during the Obama administration.
    It that time," the NRA wrote in a statement. "The NRA believes that devices designed to allow semiautomatic rifles to function like fully-automatic rifles should be subject to additional regulations."
    The ATF and Obama admin. ignored the NRA recommendations.


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    Yea, they will definitely remember next year. Especially with articles like the one below. Pass it around and encourage everyone you know that cares to read it...

    http://www.rollingstone.com/politics...-rich-20111109

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    Quote Originally Posted by Return of Dune View Post
    Are you frigging drunk?
    If tax cuts produce prosperity, why did Bush leave with the economy in a shambles?
    Because Clinton repealed Glass Steagall.

    That said, as stated many times, tax cuts are SHORT term stimulus. They only work long term if you have corresponding spending cuts. They do not work long term when you outspend revenue like drunken liberals.
    Quote from Cypress:
    "Scientists don't use "averages". Maybe armchair supertools on message boards ascribe some meaning to "averages" between two random data points. And maybe clueless amatuers "draw a straight line" through two random end data points to define a "trend". Experts don't.

    They use mean annual and five year means in trend analysis. Don't tell me I have to explain the difference to you. "

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    i think it is hilarious to make a correlation between the tax cuts and the economy at the end of bush's term.

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    Quote Originally Posted by drewdown View Post
    Yea, they will definitely remember next year. Especially with articles like the one below. Pass it around and encourage everyone you know that cares to read it...

    http://www.rollingstone.com/politics...-rich-20111109
    You do realize that both Clinton AND Bush cut taxes for the rich.... or did you miss those capital gains tax cuts and 'qualified' dividend income tax rates?

    Also... raising marginal tax rates does little if you turn around and give them the deductions and loopholes to reduce taxable income.
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    "Scientists don't use "averages". Maybe armchair supertools on message boards ascribe some meaning to "averages" between two random data points. And maybe clueless amatuers "draw a straight line" through two random end data points to define a "trend". Experts don't.

    They use mean annual and five year means in trend analysis. Don't tell me I have to explain the difference to you. "

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    Quote Originally Posted by drewdown View Post
    Yea, they will definitely remember next year. Especially with articles like the one below. Pass it around and encourage everyone you know that cares to read it...

    http://www.rollingstone.com/politics...-rich-20111109
    You do realize that both Clinton AND Bush cut taxes for the rich.... or did you miss those capital gains tax cuts and 'qualified' dividend income tax rates?

    Also... raising marginal tax rates does little if you turn around and give them the deductions and loopholes to reduce taxable income.
    Quote from Cypress:
    "Scientists don't use "averages". Maybe armchair supertools on message boards ascribe some meaning to "averages" between two random data points. And maybe clueless amatuers "draw a straight line" through two random end data points to define a "trend". Experts don't.

    They use mean annual and five year means in trend analysis. Don't tell me I have to explain the difference to you. "

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    Dude, your making our point for us (#OWS), the housing bubble wasn't caused by Freddie and Fannie, it was caused by the Bush Administration (The American Dream
    Downpaymet Initiative .....http://www.hud.gov/offices/cpd/affor...ams/home/addi/). The housing bubble burst because of over-leveraging by Wall St. Also,
    because of deceitful practices by mortgage brokers. See, Fannie & Freddie didn't impose the regulations that led to "anyone" qualifying for a loan, Bush did with the initiative referenced above. Also, you say regulations died in the Senate, funny republicans had control of the House and the Senate from 2000-2006. So, your argument is totally baseless as are all republican arguments sadly.
    You want to find out what roll the conservatives have played in the last 11 years, read the article below, and while reading, remember that the people indicting your party are all
    REPUBLICANS.

    http://www.rollingstone.com/politics...-rich-20111109

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    That's a misleading argument, that tax cut you refer to in '97 was originated by Newt Gingrich, and Clinton is culpable because he signed it. Truth is you need to open your eyes, just
    because appeasement by Clinton is factual, doesn't mean your party isn't responsible for the atrocity that have become the Bush Tax cuts and their continued defense of them. Neither
    does it absolve your presidential candidates, which all want to make them permanent and thus want to make income inequality a permanent part of our society...

    http://www.rollingstone.com/politics...-rich-20111109

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    Your lying, and really dumb from the looks of it. You want the truth about water boarding, read "Black Banners" by Ali Soufan, he was the lead FBI investigator from the September 11th attacks and says repeatedly that the Higher Ups in the Bush Administration should be tried for crimes of WAR. Also, he details how torture never worked and how the Bush administration
    continued to lie to the the American public about it's effectiveness. But I guess asking you to read, when you can just turn on Faux news to get your falsities is asking too much.
    Ali Soufan, lead FBI interrogator, not a blogger or a reporter, but the Lead FBI interrogator during the time in question..!!




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    Your an Idiot. you need to read for a change, instead of just typing what you hear on Faux...

    http://www.rollingstone.com/politics...-rich-20111109

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