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    Default BREAKING NEWS: Average rate on 30-year fixed mortgages falls below 4 percent

    BREAKING NEWS: Average rate on 30-year fixed mortgages falls below 4 percent for first time ever

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    What happened to the soaring interest rates the Conservatives were screaming we would soon be experiencing...?

    Looks like a good time for the government to borrow some money to get us out of the fix we are in. The rate on T-Bills is also incredably low.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jarod View Post
    BREAKING NEWS: Average rate on 30-year fixed mortgages falls below 4 percent for first time ever

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    What happened to the soaring interest rates the Conservatives were screaming we would soon be experiencing...?

    Looks like a good time for the government to borrow some money to get us out of the fix we are in. The rate on T-Bills is also incredably low.
    That's a brilliant idea! Let's borrow more money to get us out of the mess we got into buy borrowing fuck tons of money! God damned if we can't spend our way outta debt!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Everybody DANCE! View Post
    That's a brilliant idea! Let's borrow more money to get us out of the mess we got into buy borrowing fuck tons of money! God damned if we can't spend our way outta debt!
    Money is cheaper to borrow than its ever been... The debt is not the problem, the stagnation of money at the top is the problem.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jarod View Post
    Money is cheaper to borrow than its ever been... The debt is not the problem, the stagnation of money at the top is the problem.
    That's the exact same idea as paying off my credit card with another credit card.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jarod View Post
    Money is cheaper to borrow than its ever been... The debt is not the problem, the stagnation of money at the top is the problem.
    What do you think is causing the stagnation?

    Could it be that EVERYONE knows the more they borrow, the more they are going to use that borrowing as an excuse to raise taxes on corporations and 'the rich'? Because we all know the idiots in DC aren't going to actually cut spending. It is way too much fun for them to spend other people's money.

    Just take a look at the Reid proposal of a 5% surcharge on all income over $1mm. Dems are of the moronic mindset that they can just tax the rich/corporations to pay for all their spending. They justify it with catch phrases like 'fair share'.... and with fear mongering like 'we will have to fire teachers and firefighters'
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    They use mean annual and five year means in trend analysis. Don't tell me I have to explain the difference to you. "

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    Quote Originally Posted by Everybody DANCE! View Post
    That's the exact same idea as paying off my credit card with another credit card.
    Not true. It is like getting another credit card with the intent of paying off the first credit card and then instead just running both to their limits.
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    They use mean annual and five year means in trend analysis. Don't tell me I have to explain the difference to you. "

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    Quote Originally Posted by Everybody DANCE! View Post
    That's the exact same idea as paying off my credit card with another credit card.
    Smart idea if the interest rate on the new card is lower than the old one and you dont have any capitol and dont want to raise capitol. (i.e. raise taxes.)
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    Quote Originally Posted by Everybody DANCE! View Post
    That's the exact same idea as paying off my credit card with another credit card.
    not really. paying off credit with another credit card doesn't make capital. sometimes you can borrow more when interest rates are favorable and turn that into profit due to low interest rates. the problem liberals don't want to face is, if want to borrow more money, we need to cut spending. for far too long both parties have simply borrowed more money and not cut spending. the federal and state bureaucracies are bloated.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jarod View Post
    Smart idea if the interest rate on the new card is lower than the old one and you dont have any capitol and dont want to raise capitol. (i.e. raise taxes.)
    OR..... we could spend less, and pay down our current debt with our current income. Like normal people do.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Yurt View Post
    not really. paying off credit with another credit card doesn't make capital. sometimes you can borrow more when interest rates are favorable and turn that into profit due to low interest rates. the problem liberals don't want to face is, if want to borrow more money, we need to cut spending. for far too long both parties have simply borrowed more money and not cut spending. the federal and state bureaucracies are bloated.
    IN the current economy we need to borrow more and tax more, then when the debt gets paid down, we need to cut spending, slowly, and pay off the debt. Every economist will tell you that in a fragile recovery you dont cut spending.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Everybody DANCE! View Post
    OR..... we could spend less, and pay down our current debt with our current income. Like normal people do.
    What current income, the tea party wants to do away with income.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jarod View Post
    What current income, the tea party wants to do away with income.
    Jarod, I would need 67 ax wounds to the head to produce stupid of this magnitude. How does anyone want to do away with taxes?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jarod View Post
    What current income, the tea party wants to do away with income.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Everybody DANCE! View Post
    That's a brilliant idea! Let's borrow more money to get us out of the mess we got into buy borrowing fuck tons of money! God damned if we can't spend our way outta debt!

    You know what's even more brilliant? Trying to shrink our way to growth. That'll work out well.

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    Quote Originally Posted by David St. Hubbins View Post
    You know what's even more brilliant? Trying to shrink our way to growth. That'll work out well.
    Almost as brilliant as believing that growing government is the same thing as growing the economy.
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