Rationalist (07-25-2011)
It is quite interesting that the perpetrator of the horrendous happenings in Noway is described a a Right Wing Christian Fundementalist.
Count yourself lucky that no one of that description could ever post on such a forum as this!
http://www.justplainpolitics.com/blog.php?u=237
If you feel so inclined a comment would be appreciated.
Respect a believers right to believe, but they should damn well repect our right to challenge such utterly illogical notions.
Rationalist (07-25-2011)
I wonder if Alley-Ass wants to reconsider this ignorant statement:
Police name 'rightwinger' Anders Behring Breivik, 32, as suspect behind Oslo bombing and youth camp massacre
The killings, it now seems clear, were carried out by a 32-year old Norwegian, named by local media as Anders Behring Breivik, who had expressed far-right views...
Norway's national police chief, Sveinung Sponheim, told the national broadcaster NRK that the suspected gunman's internet postings "suggest he has some political traits directed towards the right, and anti-Muslim views..the suspect also posted on websites with Christian fundamentalist tendencies.
Breivik's Facebook page appeared to have been blocked by late evening. Earlier, it had listed interests including bodybuilding, conservative politics...he had set up a Twitter account a few days ago and posted a single message on 17 July saying: "One person with a belief is equal to the force of 100,000 who have only interests."
Norwegian daily Verdens Gang quoted a friend as saying he became a rightwing extremist in his late 20s. It said he expressed strong nationalistic views in online debates and had been a strong opponent of the idea that people of different cultural backgrounds can live alongside each other.
http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2011/jul/23/norway-attacks
...he had corresponded with far-right groups in several countries, including the UK, both to discuss ideological issues and also political strategies, including the creation of a Norwegian far-right nationalist party.
In 2009 he wrote about the need to set up a counter to what he described as "the violent Norwegian Marxist organisations" that he believed terrorised the "politically conservative".
Breivik's blog
"Marxist attitudes have become acceptable/everyday while the old-established truths of patriotism and cultural conservatism today are branded as extremism."
http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2011...norway-attacks
http://www.justplainpolitics.com/blog.php?u=237
If you feel so inclined a comment would be appreciated.
Respect a believers right to believe, but they should damn well repect our right to challenge such utterly illogical notions.
Quite interesting that no conservatives posted in this thread.
It is the responsibility of every American citizen to own a modern military rifle.
What's quite interesting is that Breivik isn't a Fundamentalist Christian. In fact, despite an obsession with Europe's "Christian roots," it appears he was not especially religious. From his own manifesto: "If you have a personal relationship with Jesus Christ and God then you are a religious Christian. Myself and many more like me do not necessarily have a personal relationship with Jesus Christ and God. We do however believe in Christianity as a cultural, social, identity and moral platform. This makes us Christian."
He also writes, "I’m not going to pretend I’m a very religious person as that would be a lie. I’ve always been very pragmatic and influenced by my secular surroundings and environment…Religion is a crutch for many weak people and many embrace religion for self serving reasons as a source for drawing mental strength."
A fundamentalist Christian is one who interprets the Bible literally -- not an accurate classification of Breivik's beliefs. In fact, all fundamentalist Christians would say Breivik is on his way to Hell.
Ultimately, it would seem any mass murderer who isn't a Muslim is automatically classified by the left as a "conservative Christian." The left's incessant dick-sucking of Islam has reached a new low...
"We know that no one ever seizes power with the intention of relinquishing it. Power is not a means, it is an end. One does not establish a dictatorship in order to safeguard a revolution; one makes the revolution in order to establish the dictatorship. The object of persecution is persecution. The object of torture is torture. The object of power is power." -O'Brien, Nineteen Eighty-Four
Cancel 2018. 3 (07-25-2011), NOVA (07-25-2011)
lol...another lib fail
it is like the loughner issue all over again, anything to bash ideology or beliefs they don't agree with. they will use any tragedy to futher their agenda.
Not really.
Let me play the same game.
The Unibomber held many of the same opinions as Al Gore, that means you had a terrorist running for President on your ticket and by affiliation you support terrorism.
The left never believes that anything is too awful or too far away to be incapable of blaming it on their personal boogeyman political opponent of the day. No matter how far they have to stretch, no matter how far away, and no matter how idiotic it is...
This is simply a stupid troll post, the conservatives didn't post here because nobody likes to feed the trolls, although sometimes people who really want that rubbish to be true will pet them and give them troll treats.
Excellence is an art won by training and habituation. We do not act rightly because we have virtue or excellence, but rather we have those because we have acted rightly. We are what we repeatedly do. Excellence, then, is not an act but a habit.
- -- Aristotle
Believe nothing on the faith of traditions, even though they have been held in honor for many generations and in diverse places. Do not believe a thing because many people speak of it. Do not believe on the faith of the sages of the past. Do not believe what you yourself have imagined, persuading yourself that a God inspires you. Believe nothing on the sole authority of your masters and priests. After examination, believe what you yourself have tested and found to be reasonable, and conform your conduct thereto.
- -- The Buddha
It is the mark of an educated mind to be able to entertain a thought without accepting it.
- -- Aristotle
Rationalist (07-25-2011)
http://www.justplainpolitics.com/blog.php?u=237
If you feel so inclined a comment would be appreciated.
Respect a believers right to believe, but they should damn well repect our right to challenge such utterly illogical notions.
Funny, when a Muslim murders for political reasons, nobody splits hairs over whether or not he's "fundamentalist".
BTW, the rightwing apologists may want to find out what a "fundamentalist Christian" is: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fundame...t_Christianity
"We know that no one ever seizes power with the intention of relinquishing it. Power is not a means, it is an end. One does not establish a dictatorship in order to safeguard a revolution; one makes the revolution in order to establish the dictatorship. The object of persecution is persecution. The object of torture is torture. The object of power is power." -O'Brien, Nineteen Eighty-Four
Its is quite baffling....
"The left's incessant dick-sucking of Islam has reached a new low..."
The Islamic believers would execute these same left wing assholes in a heartbeat....gays and lesbians, whores and porn stars, etc.......anyone that would deviate from the Muslim religious practices would have their fuckin heads cut off without even a wink and a nod....yet these idiots cater and cowtow to the crazies from the Middle East as if they might become comrades....its defies logic and common sense....
would these left wing morons wrap themselves in their burkas or chant 5 times a day or have their throats slit.....I wonder....
Yet they will accuse Christians of being in agreement with terrorists....as if any of these terrorists actually practice Christianity in even a casual way.....it seems that if the terrorists calls himself a Christian, thats good enough for the pinheads.......logic says, if the next terrorists calls himself an extraterrestrial, the left will no doubt believe that too and look for a hidden spaceship
Put blame where it belongs
ATF decided it could not regulate bump stocks during the Obama administration.
It that time," the NRA wrote in a statement. "The NRA believes that devices designed to allow semiautomatic rifles to function like fully-automatic rifles should be subject to additional regulations."
The ATF and Obama admin. ignored the NRA recommendations.
Rationalist (07-25-2011)
Excellence is an art won by training and habituation. We do not act rightly because we have virtue or excellence, but rather we have those because we have acted rightly. We are what we repeatedly do. Excellence, then, is not an act but a habit.
- -- Aristotle
Believe nothing on the faith of traditions, even though they have been held in honor for many generations and in diverse places. Do not believe a thing because many people speak of it. Do not believe on the faith of the sages of the past. Do not believe what you yourself have imagined, persuading yourself that a God inspires you. Believe nothing on the sole authority of your masters and priests. After examination, believe what you yourself have tested and found to be reasonable, and conform your conduct thereto.
- -- The Buddha
It is the mark of an educated mind to be able to entertain a thought without accepting it.
- -- Aristotle
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