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    Quote Originally Posted by apple0154 View Post
    "an ideological/ geopolitical view of government"

    Not just a view of government but support and a vote for a government that implements policies that affect people; other human beings, other human beings who are ill and poor.

    Governments are people and if a person treated another individual the same way certain governments treat people they would be considered "alienated sociopaths". It follows if an individual believes in the way the people in government treat others to the point the individual supports the people in government it's logical to conclude the individual must think the same way. What other rational conclusion can one draw?

    This is hardly troll-like. It is what lies at the very base of this thread. Is it not about the way government (people) treat others (an 11 year old)?

    You've read the posts over time, the continual tearing down of the needy or how they really aren't all that needy. The comments from posters on how they struggled to get ahead and how others need to apply themselves.

    Check the definition of ALIENATED SOCIOPATHS I posted in msg. 26 and then read a few posts by some of our "friends". It won't be difficult to see the similarities.
    Oh bull fing shit! Liberal's stand for the killing of 50 million babies...that's pretty damned psychopathic! See how this argument can run?

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    Quote Originally Posted by SmarterThanYou View Post
    just so we're clear. I'm saying charging an 11 year old is the result of BOTH liberals and conservatives stances on guns and crime.
    Yep! Both paradigms are essentially false flags with respect to the way the partisanship is used to both deflect and hide atlerior motives. They feign disunity to stoke the partisan sheep into a blaze. Meanwhile, they plot to decieve the populce.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ice Dancer View Post
    Oh bull fing shit! Liberal's stand for the killing of 50 million babies...that's pretty damned psychopathic! See how this argument can run?
    I see, indeed! Recall one of the characteristics, namely: "have a cold, callous attitude toward human suffering or any social problem in the society they live in. They just don't care because it's outside their range of empathy."

    You've just shown a fine example not only of the disregard some folks have for other individuals but their insistence those individuals needlessly suffer by claiming a mass of human DNA constitutes a human being and attempting to deny the individual's right to have it removed from their body.

    Unfortunately, that's just the beginning. Their attitude/belief has, in the past and would again, result in a wide spread social problem. That being the large number of young women and the resultant undesired children thrown into poverty. History is replete with examples of "unwed mothers" and "illegitimate children" and the hell that was their life. Society may have changed the definition to be politically correct (unwed mothers = single mothers, illegitimate children = illegitimate children) but attitudes have barely changed, at least the attitudes within certain political groups.

    It goes beyond a cold, callous attitude and a lack of empathy. It involves making a choice for individuals and then expecting them to deal with the choice that was made by others and we know the overwhelming outcome. While others are continuing their education or advancing their career the unwed mother and illegitimate child....oops, single mom and child...are struggling with poverty.

    A while back when discussing social programs for single moms one poster asked why he should be responsible for someone elses child.

    That's the strange thing about all this. It seems a pregnancy is everyone's business but when it comes to dealing with the resultant single mom and child it's nobody's responsibility but their own.

    I think that's one of the main differences between Liberals and Conservatives. While both forms of government desire to implement rules and regulations a Liberal government is more apt to assist people affected by change whereas Conservatives tend to take the position "just deal with it".

    In any case, ID, rather than label the followers of a political party perhaps we can agree that one specific party does exhibit the general characteristics to a much greater degree.
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    Quote Originally Posted by apple0154 View Post
    In any case, ID, rather than label the followers of a political party perhaps we can agree that one specific party does exhibit the general characteristics to a much greater degree.
    I agree that liberal inanity is perfectly reflected in your lack of logical discourse~

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    Quote Originally Posted by tinfoil View Post
    Yep! Both paradigms are essentially false flags with respect to the way the partisanship is used to both deflect and hide atlerior motives. They feign disunity to stoke the partisan sheep into a blaze. Meanwhile, they plot to decieve the populce.





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    Quote Originally Posted by Ice Dancer View Post
    I agree that liberal inanity is perfectly reflected in your lack of logical discourse~
    Talking about logical discourse I wrote in msg #32,
    Governments are people and if a person treated another individual the same way certain governments treat people they would be considered "alienated sociopaths". It follows if an individual believes in the way the people in government treat others to the point the individual supports the people in government it's logical to conclude the individual must think the same way. What other rational conclusion can one draw?
    So, I put it to you again. What other rational conclusion can one draw? Going on the reasonable assumption people vote for political parties/politicians who hold beliefs similar to their own and the holding of such beliefs is characteristic of a disorder then what rational conclusion can we draw other than it's highly likely the people who vote for such politicians suffer from that specific disorder?

    Let's recap. As I noted in msg #26 from the article you linked to,
    (Excerpt) ALIENATED SOCIOPATHS…..have a cold, callous attitude toward human suffering or any social problem in the society they live in. They just don't care because it's outside their range of empathy. Most will believe they are justified in this because they feel they were cheated in some way themselves by society, and a few will be more than happy to rant and rave about it to anyone who listens. They are chronic complainers, and underneath it all, they would like to see nothing better than all of society destroyed.(End)
    Let's look at the Republican Party and it's supporters.

    1. "have a cold, callous attitude toward human suffering or any social problem in the society they live in. They just don't care because it's outside their range of empathy"

    It is the Republican Party who insists on cutting social programs while the Democratic Party strongly resists such actions.

    2. "Most will believe they are justified in this because they feel they were cheated in some way themselves by society, and a few will be more than happy to rant and rave about it to anyone who listens."

    There is no lack of Republican Party members telling us how they struggled to get where they are, whether it concerned growing up in a single parent home or washing a barroom floor, just as there are Republican folks here who tell us of their struggles trying to obtain an education while subsisting on noodles. The message being they weren't offered a helping hand.

    3. "They are chronic complainers, and underneath it all, they would like to see nothing better than all of society destroyed."

    Not only has the Republican Party been told, over and over, default on the debt will lead to world-wide turmoil but dragging the talks too close to the deadline will spook investors, however, we see the same "demand social programs be cut and don't back down, regardless of the consequences" attitude from Republican supporters on the board.

    There is nothing inane about attempting to discuss what is a serious problem.
    "May your reality be as pleasant as mine."

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    Quote Originally Posted by apple0154 View Post
    Talking about logical discourse I wrote in msg #32,

    So, I put it to you again. What other rational conclusion can one draw? Going on the reasonable assumption people vote for political parties/politicians who hold beliefs similar to their own and the holding of such beliefs is characteristic of a disorder then what rational conclusion can we draw other than it's highly likely the people who vote for such politicians suffer from that specific disorder?

    Let's recap. As I noted in msg #26 from the article you linked to,

    Let's look at the Republican Party and it's supporters.

    1. "have a cold, callous attitude toward human suffering or any social problem in the society they live in. They just don't care because it's outside their range of empathy"

    It is the Republican Party who insists on cutting social programs while the Democratic Party strongly resists such actions.

    2. "Most will believe they are justified in this because they feel they were cheated in some way themselves by society, and a few will be more than happy to rant and rave about it to anyone who listens."

    There is no lack of Republican Party members telling us how they struggled to get where they are, whether it concerned growing up in a single parent home or washing a barroom floor, just as there are Republican folks here who tell us of their struggles trying to obtain an education while subsisting on noodles. The message being they weren't offered a helping hand.

    3. "They are chronic complainers, and underneath it all, they would like to see nothing better than all of society destroyed."

    Not only has the Republican Party been told, over and over, default on the debt will lead to world-wide turmoil but dragging the talks too close to the deadline will spook investors, however, we see the same "demand social programs be cut and don't back down, regardless of the consequences" attitude from Republican supporters on the board.

    There is nothing inane about attempting to discuss what is a serious problem.
    I have to admit that while I didn't think you could ever reach a new level of circular thinking, you have impressed me and it is now obvious that you're insane.
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    I think that, at 11, whether they did it on purpose or not,planned it or no, they are no where NEAR an adult level of decision making and should not be tried as an adult. period. Find them innocent or guilty as an 11 year old. Cause they are 11.

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    Nice gravedig. It's always cool to see an old thread like this.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Damocles View Post
    Nice gravedig. It's always cool to see an old thread like this.
    Very strange!

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    KILL HIM!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Damocles View Post
    Nice gravedig. It's always cool to see an old thread like this.
    Really grind thinks 5 is too many
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    Very strange!
    In more ways than one.


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