Reason is not Rational

[Damocles]

Or we could ignore global climate change and just let everyone starve to death when the dustbowls take over all arable land.

Would that also suit the globalist elite agenda?

Yes. Then we'd all be eating Soylent Green...

[Don Quixote]

Yes. Then we'd all be eating Soylent Green...

actually, arable land will move north or south depending on which hemisphere you are referring to

however, the effect of diseases and pests during the changeover are ill defined

areas of drought and flood will change and hopefully man will adapt (like he usually does), however, the changeover will be painful and population shifts will be difficult due to national borders

[Rune]

actually, arable land will move north or south depending on which hemisphere you are referring to

however, the effect of diseases and pests during the changeover are ill defined

areas of drought and flood will change and hopefully man will adapt (like he usually does), however, the changeover will be painful and population shifts will be difficult due to national borders

While it may be true that some arable land MAY be gained, there is no predicting whether the result will net increase or decrease.

[midcan5]

If anyone doubts the premise of the OP they have Newt on 'face the nation' this past weekend for consideration. Then they have Newt on Monday, and then they have the republican backlash. Interesting twisting of words and ideas, republicans have become so ideological not only are they politically irrational but now the irrationality has gained the status of commandment.

Oh and don't quote Newt's own words because they too were irrational dependent on the day or hour you quote him. You'll need to check.

As far as global warming, that is fact as temperatures are rising. For all the flat earthers out there, fact is the earth is warming, argue about cause if you like but reality is sometimes reality, at least apart from the republican world.

400,000 year view global warming

James Balog: Time-lapse proof of extreme ice loss | Video on TED.com

[Blackwater Lunchbreak]

Or we could ignore global climate change and just let everyone starve to death when the dustbowls take over all arable land.

Would that also suit the globalist elite agenda?

We could create enough food for everyone easily, with modern technology. The food scarcity is falsely created. All our problems are man made, by mass murderers.

there is no will among the elites to truly provide and care for humanity, they are cynical through and through, and expend their efforts trying keep all of humanity "in check". Maybe the aliens make them do it. They sell the rest of us out to keep their power. It's called "realpolitik" or "hegemonic stability". its the current operative meme of the global elites.

[Minister of Truth]

Asshate, perhaps you could send an e-mail out to the numerous heads of state, asking them to stop starving their people.

[Blackwater Lunchbreak]

Asshate, perhaps you could send an e-mail out to the numerous heads of state, asking them to stop starving their people.

That populist message is rejected by the brainwashed elitists.

[Minister of Truth]

So now the elitists are brainwashed? I thought they were the ones with the suds!

[Blackwater Lunchbreak]

So now the elitists are brainwashed? I thought they were the ones with the suds!

They are brainwashed and also perpetuate the brainwash. Each one teach one, pull you up the chain, make you feel the pain till you give it out the same.

[midcan5]

How does one determine if one is brainwashed ? Can anyone provide specific instructions? I once asked a sociology professor who was arguing mental illness is a social construct what would happen if the social construct one day collapsed? Could it be as Stanley Fish and other language philosophers debate it is all in the words we use, in the community of words, but then without words what would we say. More importantly what would we know we know. Back to how do we determine our mind is fill of dirty laundry and requires washing or is that un-washing?

"We all are born mad. Some remain so." Samuel Beckett

[Blackwater Lunchbreak]

How does one determine if one is brainwashed ? Can anyone provide specific instructions? I once asked a sociology professor who was arguing mental illness is a social construct what would happen if the social construct one day collapsed? Could it be as Stanley Fish and other language philosophers debate it is all in the words we use, in the community of words, but then without words what would we say. More importantly what would we know we know. Back to how do we determine our mind is fill of dirty laundry and requires washing or is that un-washing?

"We all are born mad. Some remain so." Samuel Beckett

If you say you believe one thing, but then actively support something different, but merely make a false distinction in language to cover your own hypocrisy, you're probably brainwashed.

For example, people who say they are against race and gender discrimination but still support affirmative action against white males are brainwashed.

[Minister of Truth]

They are brainwashed and also perpetuate the brainwash. Each one teach one, pull you up the chain, make you feel the pain till you give it out the same.

Translation: I just got stuck in my own BS.

[midcan5]

If you say you believe one thing, but then actively support something different, but merely make a false distinction in language to cover your own hypocrisy, you're probably brainwashed.

For example, people who say they are against race and gender discrimination but still support affirmative action against white males are brainwashed.

The problem with your example is anyone who lives in the real world knows that without AA our current world may not even exist. It forced discrimination out in the open. As the thread topic notes, reason or actions are not always rational if viewed from too narrow a belief system. The sign of sense and intelligence is the ability to hold contrary views and yet remain sane. Believing something doesn't make it true and contingent thought is often required. But here is a piece that sorta supports your position. I would think these people are brainwashed?

"Every Wednesday morning, a group of conspirators meets to plot out how to most effectively attack the federal government. This is not a group of rag-tag terrorists – they wear $2,000 suits and occupy powerful positions in society. But their ideas are politically radical and they do pose a real threat to the normal workings of government in the U.S. They are a group of leading conservatives who believe that government is a malevolent force in society and they have a fierce determination to drastically cut it back. They are convinced that the central problem in our country is too much government – too many social programs, too many regulations, and too much taxation – and they are committed to doing something about it." http://www.governmentisgood.com/articles.php?aid=9

[midcan5]

I was fascinated when I saw this thread, I had forgotten it but recently was re-reading parts of Parfit's book. Parfit moved on to 'What Matters' which he put online for a few years asking for comments or working out his thoughts on what matters. If you check Youtube, his sons did some short interviews to introduce you to one of the thinkers of our times. He will make you think should you enter.

Interesting the link I posted still works. Edge is an excellent site. "The puzzle is, why are humans so amazingly bad at reasoning in some contexts, and so amazingly good in others?"

"It is not enough to ask, Will my act harm other people? Even if the answer is No, my act may still be wrong, because of its effects on other people. I should ask, Will my act be one of a set of acts that will together harm other people? The answer may be Yes. And the harm to others may be great." Derek Parfit


http://philosophynow.org/issues/87/O...y_Derek_Parfit