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    Discussion of Holocaust to Be Banned?


    By Michael Collins Piper

    The recent tragic death of a security guard at the U.S. Holocaust Memorial Museum in Washington, allegedly killed by an individual said to be a “Holocaust denier” is now being touted as a reason to institute laws in the United States similar to those laws outlawing so-called “Holocaust denial” in force in 14 countries, mostly in Western Europe.

    However, long-standing evidence suggests that those who advocate such measures in the United States do not intend to directly confront the issue of “Holocaust denial” in pushing such legislation. Rather, they intend to deal with the issue through an insidious tactical “back door” approach.

    The scheme has been in the works for a long time and is not to be confused with the long-standing drive (once again before Congress) to set up a federal “hate crimes” bureaucracy.

    Here’s the story that’s not been reported anywhere else: On June 12, the conservative Washington Times—which regularly touts the globalist and Zionist agenda—featured a headline story announcing that “Debate arises on legality of Holocaust denial,” as a consequence of what happened at the Holocaust Museum, adding fuel to the fire.


    After reading the above , I started to think that when a nation has to pass laws to prevent people from hating Jews,it usually means the beginning of the end of the jews.

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    hate crime laws are unconstitutional. it creates a protected class of people with above special privileges.
    A sad commentary on we, as a people, and our viewpoint of our freedom can be summed up like this. We have liberals and conservatives, Democrats and Republicans, yet those very people look at Constitutionalists as radical and extreme.................so those liberals and conservatives, Democrats and Republicans must believe that the constitution is radical and extreme.

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    But when you have no constitution and the protected class runs the government ,then what?

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    Quote Originally Posted by wolfspinne View Post
    But when you have no constitution and the protected class runs the government ,then what?
    then you don't have the rule of law anymore. you have the rule of man, so laws are totally irrelevant.
    A sad commentary on we, as a people, and our viewpoint of our freedom can be summed up like this. We have liberals and conservatives, Democrats and Republicans, yet those very people look at Constitutionalists as radical and extreme.................so those liberals and conservatives, Democrats and Republicans must believe that the constitution is radical and extreme.

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    Quote Originally Posted by wolfspinne View Post
    But when you have no constitution and the protected class runs the government ,then what?
    Then, if you believe in personal freedoms, you revolt. King George learned all about it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Damocles View Post
    Then, if you believe in personal freedoms, you revolt. King George learned all about it.
    All I'm getting is a lot of very naive sounding stuff .. I'll pass ,Damocles.

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    Quote Originally Posted by wolfspinne View Post
    All I'm getting is a lot of very naive sounding stuff .. I'll pass ,Damocles.
    how is rebelling against the rule of man, naive?
    A sad commentary on we, as a people, and our viewpoint of our freedom can be summed up like this. We have liberals and conservatives, Democrats and Republicans, yet those very people look at Constitutionalists as radical and extreme.................so those liberals and conservatives, Democrats and Republicans must believe that the constitution is radical and extreme.

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    America is a ship of fools,soon to sink,and the jews will collect the insurance.

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    Quote Originally Posted by wolfspinne View Post
    America is a ship of fools,soon to sink,and the jews will collect the insurance.
    Be on that ship, will you?
    It is the responsibility of every American citizen to own a modern military rifle.

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    When laws are passed to prevent people from hating the jews ,it usually means the beginning of the end for the JEWS!

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    Quote Originally Posted by wolfspinne View Post
    All I'm getting is a lot of very naive sounding stuff .. I'll pass ,Damocles.
    Really, the American Revolution was "naive"? So far all I've gotten is ignorance. You'll "pass" because you really have nothing at all. I'm good with that.
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    If we make lies illegal it doesnt stop them.


    Fox news is allowed to lie by the laws of our country.

    They lie about Obamas birth certificate and death panels all day long.


    Laws against lies just dont seem to stick in this country anyway so dont worry no one is going to make it illegal to lie about the Jewish people anytime soon.

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    Quote Originally Posted by evince View Post
    Laws against lies just dont seem to stick in this country anyway so dont worry no one is going to make it illegal to lie about the Jewish people anytime soon.
    really desh? try lying to a federal agent sometime, see if it don't stick. martha stewart can tell you all about it.
    A sad commentary on we, as a people, and our viewpoint of our freedom can be summed up like this. We have liberals and conservatives, Democrats and Republicans, yet those very people look at Constitutionalists as radical and extreme.................so those liberals and conservatives, Democrats and Republicans must believe that the constitution is radical and extreme.

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    Quote Originally Posted by evince View Post
    If we make lies illegal it doesnt stop them.


    Fox news is allowed to lie by the laws of our country.

    They lie about Obamas birth certificate and death panels all day long.


    Laws against lies just dont seem to stick in this country anyway so dont worry no one is going to make it illegal to lie about the Jewish people anytime soon.
    You really have no idea what goes on FOX news do you?

    Every talking head of FOX agrees with you about the birth certificate, yet you say they are lying? Well Desh, I didn't know you were a birther!
    Excellence is an art won by training and habituation. We do not act rightly because we have virtue or excellence, but rather we have those because we have acted rightly. We are what we repeatedly do. Excellence, then, is not an act but a habit.
    - -- Aristotle

    Believe nothing on the faith of traditions, even though they have been held in honor for many generations and in diverse places. Do not believe a thing because many people speak of it. Do not believe on the faith of the sages of the past. Do not believe what you yourself have imagined, persuading yourself that a God inspires you. Believe nothing on the sole authority of your masters and priests. After examination, believe what you yourself have tested and found to be reasonable, and conform your conduct thereto.
    - -- The Buddha

    It is the mark of an educated mind to be able to entertain a thought without accepting it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SmarterThanYou View Post
    then you don't have the rule of law anymore. you have the rule of man, so laws are totally irrelevant.
    That's what we have already, when we have a judiciary that can wildly interpret laws that no plain text honest reading would support. W're there there now.

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