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    Default For the love of God, enough already!

    There are no fewer than 25 threads pertaining to the assassination attempt against Congresswoman Giffords, each painting the perpetrator as either right or left, blaming conservatives, 2nd amendment advocates, left-wing activists, and/or Sarah Palin, amongst other bullshit. What the hell is wrong with you people?

    Let's roll with what we DO know: regardless of his political beliefs, Jared Loughner is one fucked up individual and the only one responsible for this heinous act is Jared Loughner - NOT Sarah Palin (seriously, stop giving her so much credit), conservatives, the Tea Party, the Communist Manifesto, or anyone/anything other than Jared Loughner.

    Attempting to use this tragedy for your political gain is not only disgusting, it's also a colossal waste of time.
    "We know that no one ever seizes power with the intention of relinquishing it. Power is not a means, it is an end. One does not establish a dictatorship in order to safeguard a revolution; one makes the revolution in order to establish the dictatorship. The object of persecution is persecution. The object of torture is torture. The object of power is power." -O'Brien, Nineteen Eighty-Four

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    You speak the truth. My local paper, the San Francisco Chronicle, has a comment section under each article they post online and this story has like 1,800 comments on it and they are pretty much like what you see here. I can only imagine what it will be like when/if we find out the actual motive.

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    Quote Originally Posted by cawacko View Post
    You speak the truth. My local paper, the San Francisco Chronicle, has a comment section under each article they post online and this story has like 1,800 comments on it and they are pretty much like what you see here. I can only imagine what it will be like when/if we find out the actual motive.
    Unless people here cool it and get back to real issues, I'll be taking a break from the site when that happens.
    "We know that no one ever seizes power with the intention of relinquishing it. Power is not a means, it is an end. One does not establish a dictatorship in order to safeguard a revolution; one makes the revolution in order to establish the dictatorship. The object of persecution is persecution. The object of torture is torture. The object of power is power." -O'Brien, Nineteen Eighty-Four

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    Quote Originally Posted by Voltaire View Post
    There are no fewer than 25 threads pertaining to the assassination attempt against Congresswoman Giffords, each painting the perpetrator as either right or left, blaming conservatives, 2nd amendment advocates, left-wing activists, and/or Sarah Palin, amongst other bullshit. What the hell is wrong with you people?

    Let's roll with what we DO know: regardless of his political beliefs, Jared Loughner is one fucked up individual and the only one responsible for this heinous act is Jared Loughner - NOT Sarah Palin (seriously, stop giving her so much credit), conservatives, the Tea Party, the Communist Manifesto, or anyone/anything other than Jared Loughner.

    Attempting to use this tragedy for your political gain is not only disgusting, it's also a colossal waste of time.
    Hella...
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    A pox on the houses of all people trying to use this incident for political gain.

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    i apologize for my four threads, each was addressing a different accusation by the left, but i guess i could have put them together


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    Quote Originally Posted by Threedee View Post
    BTW, I discovered the first chick while doing a Google Images search for the Super Troll image I inserted into another thread. Not what I was looking for, but I'm not complaining.
    Truly, nothing in this world has the same power to bring guys together in unity as a great set of mams.

    I'm partial to the 2nd (blonde).
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    Quote Originally Posted by Voltaire View Post
    There are no fewer than 25 threads pertaining to the assassination attempt against Congresswoman Giffords, each painting the perpetrator as either right or left, blaming conservatives, 2nd amendment advocates, left-wing activists, and/or Sarah Palin, amongst other bullshit. What the hell is wrong with you people?

    Let's roll with what we DO know: regardless of his political beliefs, Jared Loughner is one fucked up individual and the only one responsible for this heinous act is Jared Loughner - NOT Sarah Palin (seriously, stop giving her so much credit), conservatives, the Tea Party, the Communist Manifesto, or anyone/anything other than Jared Loughner.

    Attempting to use this tragedy for your political gain is not only disgusting, it's also a colossal waste of time.
    Bullshit. You just want this to go away because the right is guilty of embracing and forwarding an ever present threat of violence...a "Lock and RELOAD" to "Take back your country" sickness.

    You are the one who answered this post...under the 'personal responsibility' mantra, you are guilty...


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    The response to this entire tragedy has disgusted me. So many are so quick to want to use a tragedy for political gain that it amazes me.

    Kudos to Voltaire for calling them on it, and I agree.

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    Quote Originally Posted by WinterBorn View Post
    The response to this entire tragedy has disgusted me. So many are so quick to want to use a tragedy for political gain that it amazes me.

    Kudos to Voltaire for calling them on it, and I agree.
    The politicizing of this tragedy took place BEFORE the bullets inflicted their horrible carnage when the Palins, Bachmanns, Angles, Becks, and Tancredos spewed their violent rhetoric and hatred of liberals and Democrats. And the right embraced and reveled in that threat of violence. Now, when people call out the sick violence rhetoric, conservatives cry 'foul' and accuse the sane ones BEFORE this happened of politicizing this tragedy...bullshit.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Bfgrn View Post
    The politicizing of this tragedy took place BEFORE the bullets inflicted their horrible carnage when the Palins, Bachmanns, Angles, Becks, and Tancredos spewed their violent rhetoric and hatred of liberals and Democrats. And the right embraced and reveled in that threat of violence. Now, when people call out the sick violence rhetoric, conservatives cry 'foul' and accuse the sane ones BEFORE this happened of politicizing this tragedy...bullshit.


    I never gave anybody hell. I just told the truth and they thought it was hell.
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    The tragedy is that you assumed this murder had anything to do with the crap spewed by the people you hate so much. It has become acceptable to blame others and spew hatred. Whether you post crosshairs or simply expound and pass-on the hatred, the fact that you think yourself innocent and others guilty in this tragedy is appalling.

    I think Palin is an idiot. But so are the dems who wanted Cheney to talk George W. bird hunting.

    The fact is that there is no evidence linking this lunatic with either side of our sharply divided political scene.

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    Quote Originally Posted by WinterBorn View Post
    The tragedy is that you assumed this murder had anything to do with the crap spewed by the people you hate so much. It has become acceptable to blame others and spew hatred. Whether you post crosshairs or simply expound and pass-on the hatred, the fact that you think yourself innocent and others guilty in this tragedy is appalling.

    I think Palin is an idiot. But so are the dems who wanted Cheney to talk George W. bird hunting.

    The fact is that there is no evidence linking this lunatic with either side of our sharply divided political scene.
    Sorry WinterBorn, but you are drawing a false equivalency. You can find traces of this on the left, and OVERWHELMING evidence on the right. I don't hate anyone, but I do hate violence. It IS acceptable to call out the people who embrace the violent imagery and rhetoric because I DID IT BEFORE this happened, not just after.

    I had arguments back when Palin placed her gun sights on Democrats, and I was called a sissy lib, bleeding heart...all the macho right wing bluster.

    I will not let the right get away with calling liberals pacifists, bleeding hearts and sissies when it is convenient for their argument, and then cry foul when they are called out on their acceptance and even embrace of violent rhetoric or their attempts to intimidate by the hint on violence.


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