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    I'd need a hazmat suit to come where you live, banjofuck.

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    Quote Originally Posted by RB 60 View Post
    I don't drink, stupid. I wasn't drinking that night and haven't had a drink for years prior to being forced to go through the checkpoint. Some of you have issues with comprehension.
    Sure, you drink. It is all over your writing that you drink. But if you were not drinking, no one gives a fuck if you like or not like checkpoints. Your opinion is yours and beholden not on anyone else.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CFM View Post
    No one says you didn't drive. Why didn't he drive? You claim he had enough judgment to make a rational decision about the police and pool shots yet claim he didn't have enough judgment to be able to drive. He can't be rational enough to do that but not rational enough to drive. It can't be both.
    I drove you retard! He didn't want to drink and drive, that's why I drove. Why is that so difficult to comprehend?
    After all these years I haven't drank any alcohol, I could drink a half a case of Colt 45 malt liquor and still rationally say you're a progressive idiot....and be correct.
    Common sense is not a gift, it's a punishment because you have to deal with everyone who doesn't have it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jimmymccready View Post
    Sure, you drink. It is all over your writing that you drink. But if you were not drinking, no one gives a fuck if you like or not like checkpoints. Your opinion is yours and beholden not on anyone else.
    Fuck off, asshole. Mind your own business if you can't keep up with the argument, you illiterate moron.
    Common sense is not a gift, it's a punishment because you have to deal with everyone who doesn't have it.

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    Fuck your 'fuck you,' R B 60. No one cares what you think. If you post, you are fair game. Start telling the truth, whiner.

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    Quote Originally Posted by RB 60 View Post
    I drove you retard! He didn't want to drink and drive, that's why I drove. Why is that so difficult to comprehend?
    After all these years I haven't drank any alcohol, I could drink a half a case of Colt 45 malt liquor and still rationally say you're a progressive idiot....and be correct.
    I'm not questioning who drove. You said he didn't drive because he was "somewhat shitfaced" which means his judgment was impaired. Why is it so hard for you to answer why if he was too impaired to drive he could be rational enough to make a judgment like the one you say he made. He can't be impaired and not impaired at the same time. Thinking he can is a progressive mentality.

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    Quote Originally Posted by NiftyNiblick View Post
    I'd need a hazmat suit to come where you live, banjofuck.
    You'd need some balls which you clearly don't have. You've talked like you had them but they're actually nothing more than shriveled prunes from a lifetime of cowardice living.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jimmymccready View Post
    Fuck your 'fuck you,' R B 60. No one cares what you think. If you post, you are fair game. Start telling the truth, whiner.
    Prove I'm lying, moron.
    Common sense is not a gift, it's a punishment because you have to deal with everyone who doesn't have it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CFM View Post
    Drinking then driving IS doing something.
    Yes it is. Good for you.

    Not drinking and driving is doing something too. So is posting here.

    I assume you are doing something all the time.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CFM View Post
    I'm not questioning who drove. You said he didn't drive because he was "somewhat shitfaced" which means his judgment was impaired. Why is it so hard for you to answer why if he was too impaired to drive he could be rational enough to make a judgment like the one you say he made. He can't be impaired and not impaired at the same time. Thinking he can is a progressive mentality.
    Using your extremely limited mentality, was my judgement of the officer's arrogance impaired because I was pissed off I was stuck and not believed for 15 minutes?
    Common sense is not a gift, it's a punishment because you have to deal with everyone who doesn't have it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CFM View Post
    Your words indicate you think it's OK. You're the one having the problem understanding it's what you believe.
    You are equivocating driving with drinking and driving and using that to allow the police to assume anyone driving is probably drinking. False equivalence fallacy.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CFM View Post
    You don't have the freedom to drink and drive, but it's par for the course from a selfish little bastard that thinks he can do whatever he wants when he wants. The founders disagree with you.
    You don't get to speak for the founders. You only get to speak for you.

    The Constitution of the United States 4th and 5th amendments disagree with you.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Truth Detector View Post
    They do have the power of interpreting it. As for the threads question, I believe that forcing someone to take a blood test is unconstitutional. But they can still be hauled into jail until their lawyer arrives.
    No, they do not. See Article III of the Constitution of the United States. They were never given power to interpret the document that creates them. Only the States have that power, collectively. The States are the owners of the Constitution of the United States. Only they can change it. Only they can interpret it.

    People are jailed all the time for laws they never broke. Does that make it right?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Truth Detector View Post
    You've missed the point. This isn't about someone who has been drinking, but rather has not been drinking but still subject to unreasonable search and seizure.

    Whereas, if you are driving down the road below the speed limit and weaving, there is reasonable suspicion you've been drinking. Just passing through a checkpoint and being forced to take a sobriety test is random and unreasonable.
    Quite right. Drunk and drugged drivers are already breaking laws with their weaving and other poor driving that they do. That is perfectly justifiable for a cop to stop them.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CFM View Post
    A checkpoint isn't a sobriety test.
    Such checkpoints are exactly that.

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