DUI checkpoints and 'no refusal' weekends

[CFM]

He is making a false equivalence. The problem is that he is using the assumption that a driver MIGHT be drunk to stop ALL drivers (including those that are not drunk). Thus, he is justifying interfering with a legal activity to stop an illegal activity.

This kind of thinking is what creates the so-called justification for gun control laws, the TSA making people take off their shoes and searching their luggage, implementing laws that punish everyone for the act of a single person, etc.

Such thinking is itself a fallacy, known as the attempted force of negative proof fallacy. In simpler terms, a man is guilty until proven innocent. This fallacy is a dangerous one. It starts wars.

That's not the assumption at all. That's an excuse for those of you that think it's OK for someone to drive drunk.

[CFM]

that's an unwarranted investigation with no probable cause. how much law school did you have to take to forget basics?

Not unwarranted at all nor an investigation.

Just like the others, for those that think it's OK to drive drunk and piss/moan about such things, I hope you're family members are the next victims WHEN it happens.

[Blackwater Lunchbreak]

Not unwarranted at all nor an investigation.

Just like the others, for those that think it's OK to drive drunk and piss/moan about such things, I hope you're family members are the next victims WHEN it happens.

it's both, dipshit. learn what words mean. do you think you're winning hearts and minds?

[CFM]

it's both, dipshit. learn what words mean. do you think you're winning hearts and minds?

It's neither, fuckhead. Learn what words mean.

I'm not in a popularity contest. Don't care if a bunch of whiny drunks get pissed at me because I don't want to see INNOCENT people killed because they think it's OK to drive after drinking.

[Blackwater Lunchbreak]

It's neither, fuckhead. Learn what words mean.

I'm not in a popularity contest. Don't care if a bunch of whiny drunks get pissed at me because I don't want to see INNOCENT people killed because they think it's OK to drive after drinking.

there's no probable cause, and they're investigating. so shut your idjot hole.

[Into the Night]

Why should anyone believe what your friend, the one YOU said was "somewhat shitfaced", when it comes to his opinion? If he was that intoxicated, enough to not drive, how can his judgment be trusted?

Irrelevant. He was not driving. It is perfectly legal to get shitfaced.

[Into the Night]

Into the ground? According to his "logic" you could fire it AT them and as long as it didn't hit them there is no victim or crime.

Yes there is. Discharging a gun in a dangerous and careless manner.

[Blackwater Lunchbreak]

It's neither, fuckhead. Learn what words mean.

I'm not in a popularity contest. Don't care if a bunch of whiny drunks get pissed at me because I don't want to see INNOCENT people killed because they think it's OK to drive after drinking.

why are you so invested in lies? what do you think you're doing with your life?

[Into the Night]

so you can find anywhere the founders believed you had an absolute right to do what you want to do. Not man enough to admit it, huh.

I'm not the one that has a dishonorable discharge from the military. That's you, boy.

Bulverism fallacy.

[Into the Night]

Not the wording but the meaning.

Word salad. Try again.

SCOTUS does not have authority to change the Constitution.

[Into the Night]

STY believes it's OK to drive drunk as long as you don't hurt/injure/kill an innocent person.

Repetitive distortions and contextomy fallacies. RDCF.

[Into the Night]

No one said he was. By your own words, he wasn't driving because he was "somewhat shitfaced". That means his judgment was impaired yet you absolutely accept his claim that the cop was an asshole. To make such a claim he'd have to be able to do what you admit he was incapable of doing based on his condition. If his judgment ability was good enough to make such a claim, why wasn't he capable of driving.

irrelevance fallacy. This has nothing to do with drunk driving or sobriety checkpoints.

[Into the Night]

Poor baby was inconvenienced and it hurt his feelings.

Yet another lame insult fallacy, no argument presented. YALIFNAP

[Into the Night]

So you admit your friend couldn't make a rational decision.

Irrelevance fallacy.

[Into the Night]

You claim there was no reason because you got your feelings hurt by being a little inconvenienced.

There was no reason to stop the car.