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    Quote Originally Posted by CFM View Post
    You don't have the right to drive drunk despite your belief that you do. You don't have a clue about the Constitution. You sound like a leftist with your "because I said so" argument.
    WRONG. The Constitution says so. You are denying the Constitution by adding stuff to it that isn't there. There were no cars in the 1700's. The Constitution does not address drunk driving at all. See the 10th amendment. The topic is about sobriety checkpoints, not drunk driving.
    Presentism fallacy. Redefinition fallacy (void<->Constitution of the United States). Strawman fallacy. Redirection fallacy and fixation.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Into the Night View Post
    WRONG. The Constitution says so. You are denying the Constitution by adding stuff to it that isn't there. There were no cars in the 1700's. The Constitution does not address drunk driving at all. See the 10th amendment. The topic is about sobriety checkpoints, not drunk driving.
    Presentism fallacy. Redefinition fallacy (void<->Constitution of the United States). Strawman fallacy. Redirection fallacy and fixation.
    Sobriety checkpoints are checking for drunk drivers you fucking idiot.

    The Constitution doesn't say you can drive drunk. I don't know of any State that says you can.

    I hope a drunk driver hits your damn family, the doors can't be opened, and the car catches fire.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Into the Night View Post
    Apparently not.

    He never made any such argument. Compositional error fallacy.

    Strawman fallacy.
    I understand you don't have the freedom to drive drunk and his argument is that you can and not be punished until you hurt/kill an innocent person.

    Where does the Constitution protect you entering my house without permission? My State's laws are clear about what can happen to you if you do.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Into the Night View Post
    Bulverism fallacy. Insult fallacies.
    Not an insult if it's true and I wish he had suffered from a friendly fire accident.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Into the Night View Post
    You don't get to speak for the founders. You only get to speak for you.
    I speak for the founders when the founders spoke the same way. I'll speak for you, too, and there isn't a goddamn thing you can do about it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CFM View Post
    I understand you don't have the freedom to drive drunk and his argument is that you can and not be punished until you hurt/kill an innocent person.

    Where does the Constitution protect you entering my house without permission? My State's laws are clear about what can happen to you if you do.
    but we dont block roads and make everyone submit to unwarranted investigations on the matter. doy.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CFM View Post
    I speak for the founders when the founders spoke the same way. I'll speak for you, too, and there isn't a goddamn thing you can do about it.
    we can refute your idiotspeak.

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    Quote Originally Posted by AssHatZombie View Post
    we can refute your idiotspeak.
    Are you calling the founders idiots?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Into the Night View Post
    No, he's a libertarian all right. Anarchists don't want any government at all. Not even a republic (constitutional government).
    He is standing firm supporting our Constitution. It is YOU that wants to ignore the 4th, 5th and 10th amendments here.
    He doesn't support the Constitution. He supports what he wants it to say not what it says.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Into the Night View Post
    False equivalence fallacy. This has nothing to do with sobriety checkpoints.
    Sobriety checkpoints check for drunk drivers, idiot.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CFM View Post
    Are you calling the founders idiots?
    poop

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    Quote Originally Posted by Into the Night View Post
    YALIFNAP.
    So you're mommy didn't let you suck her tits long enough either, huh?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Into the Night View Post
    Yes it is. Good for you.

    Not drinking and driving is doing something too. So is posting here.

    I assume you are doing something all the time.
    One is legal and one is not.

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    Quote Originally Posted by AssHatZombie View Post
    poop
    Can't answer a simple question, huh?

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    Quote Originally Posted by CFM View Post
    Sobriety checkpoints check for drunk drivers, idiot.
    that's an unwarranted investigation with no probable cause. how much law school did you have to take to forget basics?

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