And now we'll see the Liberal Rope-A-Dope Strategy!

[Dixie - In Memoriam]

The Rope-a-dope is a boxing fighting style commonly associated with Muhammad Ali in the Rumble in the Jungle against George Foreman, where Ali dodged most of his opponent's blows, in a defensive position on the ropes, only to defeat a worn out Foreman in later rounds.

Liberals, recovering from the shock of watching this man they believed to be the champion of all causes liberal, turn into an amalgamation of Bill Clinton and George W. Bush, are now beginning to emerge with the next phase of their strategy, and it is a legendary classic. The rope-a-dope.

Notice the threads... they have taken on a somewhat 'philosophical' tone once again. Let us step back (into the ropes) and pontificate on the 'rightness' and 'wrongness' of various things... the things which comprise most liberal thought. It serves to reaffirm the liberal foundation for support, and for the most part, juxtapose it against a completely perverted and distorted view in opposition from the right. The right isn't right because liberal economic and social policies have failed, they are wrong because liberalism is philosophically superior. Wanting to help the downtrodden, is superior to actually doing things that produce more, rather than less, opportunity for the downtrodden.

Current events are all taken off the table in this rope-a-dope, as we are stifled in endless pontificating and conjecture, regarding philosophical differences on core principles. Conservatives and Righties will meet the barrage of philosophical threads with a fervor, posting response after response, taking swing after swing, as the liberals lean back into the ropes and cover up. It's all part of the plan! You're not paying attention to the growing unemployment, to growing fuel prices, to increasing monetizing of the debt, to dwindling social security funding, to broken and failed education, to incremental socialism into every facet of our lives. You're not focused on that, because you are busy having a 'philosophical' debate with a liberal pinhead! You see, it's much more important to have a Conservative explaining why Hamilton was not the forefather of modern liberalism, than discussing the incompetence currently controlling power in our government. It's more important to have a Conservative spending his energy and time defending Iraq and Bush, it's all part of the 'wearing down' process.

Most people who have read this far into my post without drooling, realize and understand, that with the government pumping nearly $2 trillion into the economy, and yet another $2 trillion to come, it will probably 'stimulate' the economy to some degree, or at least, make the economy appear to be stimulated, and thus, 'rebounding' from the worst recession since the Great Depression. Most people who understood that, also understand this is money we don't have, we are either borrowing it or creating it by printing it. The end result is inevitably going to be, our dollars are worth less, they buy less, they will not retain their current value. At the same time our dollars are declining in value, consumer prices are rising. You can do the math from there, we are in some serious trouble here, and things aren't about to suddenly get better. Yeah, the markets may rise a little, this or that economic indicator may show some 'improvement' over last year... and the pinheads will surely crow about this, but it's all an illusion, created with massive amounts of money being pumped into the economy, and setting us up for an economic catastrophe we can't get over. If you have read Marx, you realize, that's part of the strategy as well.

[Onceler]

Buck up or go wash the truck!

[Schadenfreude]

the only rope involved is the one with a noose for you to hang from

[Dixie - In Memoriam]

the only rope involved is the one with a noose for you to hang from

My goodness, you wouldn't be suggesting "lynching" of fellow Americans, would you? Did someone give you a white sheet for Christmas?

[WinterBorn]

Hmmm, so repeal of DADT would be Clinton or Bush?

[Schadenfreude]

My goodness, you wouldn't be suggesting "lynching" of fellow Americans, would you? Did someone give you a white sheet for Christmas?

no, a black hood and black trousers - and an axe, the rope is for low lifes

[WinterBorn]

Dixie, let me add a little more detail to my previous post.

You claim that liberals (which you have labelled me) are seeing that Obama is a mix of Clinton & Bush.

DADT was Clinton's answer to gays in the military. Obama's administration repealed that piece of bullshit. So he basically either slapped Clinton or called him gutless. Pick one.

And as for good ol' George W., when he was stil gov of Texas he made a comment about the military adding Wicca to the list of official religions for which the chaplains corp receives training. His comment was something to the effect of "they should recognize a religion based on devil worship". So a forward thinking, progressive change for the military is clearly beyond George's capability.

[Jarod]

Hell, Obama has accomplished more than any other modern presidnet, in just two years. If you dont like the direction he is taking us, I can see why you would be pissed. I happen to like it, and am shocked at how much he was able to accomplish.

He may not get reelected but he has already accomplished more than Bush or Clinton did in 8 years.

More has been accomplished in two years of Obama, than 8 years of Clinton, under harsher conditions.

Now I agree that much of that was due to how badly Bush was hated, but hell he was able to take the power given to him and go!

[apple0154]

The Rope-a-dope is a boxing fighting style commonly associated with Muhammad Ali in the Rumble in the Jungle against George Foreman, where Ali dodged most of his opponent's blows, in a defensive position on the ropes, only to defeat a worn out Foreman in later rounds.

Liberals, recovering from the shock of watching this man they believed to be the champion of all causes liberal, turn into an amalgamation of Bill Clinton and George W. Bush, are now beginning to emerge with the next phase of their strategy, and it is a legendary classic. The rope-a-dope.

Notice the threads... they have taken on a somewhat 'philosophical' tone once again. Let us step back (into the ropes) and pontificate on the 'rightness' and 'wrongness' of various things... the things which comprise most liberal thought. It serves to reaffirm the liberal foundation for support, and for the most part, juxtapose it against a completely perverted and distorted view in opposition from the right. The right isn't right because liberal economic and social policies have failed, they are wrong because liberalism is philosophically superior. Wanting to help the downtrodden, is superior to actually doing things that produce more, rather than less, opportunity for the downtrodden.

Current events are all taken off the table in this rope-a-dope, as we are stifled in endless pontificating and conjecture, regarding philosophical differences on core principles. Conservatives and Righties will meet the barrage of philosophical threads with a fervor, posting response after response, taking swing after swing, as the liberals lean back into the ropes and cover up. It's all part of the plan! You're not paying attention to the growing unemployment, to growing fuel prices, to increasing monetizing of the debt, to dwindling social security funding, to broken and failed education, to incremental socialism into every facet of our lives. You're not focused on that, because you are busy having a 'philosophical' debate with a liberal pinhead! You see, it's much more important to have a Conservative explaining why Hamilton was not the forefather of modern liberalism, than discussing the incompetence currently controlling power in our government. It's more important to have a Conservative spending his energy and time defending Iraq and Bush, it's all part of the 'wearing down' process.

Most people who have read this far into my post without drooling, realize and understand, that with the government pumping nearly $2 trillion into the economy, and yet another $2 trillion to come, it will probably 'stimulate' the economy to some degree, or at least, make the economy appear to be stimulated, and thus, 'rebounding' from the worst recession since the Great Depression. Most people who understood that, also understand this is money we don't have, we are either borrowing it or creating it by printing it. The end result is inevitably going to be, our dollars are worth less, they buy less, they will not retain their current value. At the same time our dollars are declining in value, consumer prices are rising. You can do the math from there, we are in some serious trouble here, and things aren't about to suddenly get better. Yeah, the markets may rise a little, this or that economic indicator may show some 'improvement' over last year... and the pinheads will surely crow about this, but it's all an illusion, created with massive amounts of money being pumped into the economy, and setting us up for an economic catastrophe we can't get over. If you have read Marx, you realize, that's part of the strategy as well.

Dixie, Dixie, Dixie. You just don't get it.

Times have changed. The type of jobs available has changed. We've "given" the production/assembly line jobs to other countries and are starting to develop technology/knowledge based jobs.

Think of it this way. Let's say a pharmaceutical company develops a drug. For a certain number of years they have the patent. Then a generic brand is allowed to be manufactured. The original company cuts production because of lower sales as the generic brand costs less. Then the original company develops another medicine, patents it, then starts production.

The same principal applies to other things, from TVs to toaster ovens. We've cut back making those things and other countries have taken over. Now we have to develop something new and "new" means technologically advanced.

It would be pointless to start producing TVs and toaster ovens just as it would be pointless for pharmaceutical companies to boost production of medicines that are available generically.

As I said times have changed. There are fewer jobs available because we have fewer needs. Someone here does not have to make a TV or a toaster oven because someone else is making it cheaper.

So, what does all this have to do with liberal philosophy, you ask? Well, for example, with fewer people having a job it means fewer people having medical insurance through an employer. It means we have to figure out a way for people to have medical coverage without having a job. We have to figure out a way for people to acquire what they need without having them work just for the sake of working.

Do we need another 99 cent burger and five people behind a counter ready to serve us just so those folks can have a job? Do we need to produce more throw-away items that are little more than rubbish just so a person has an income?

It's all about philosophical discussions, Dixie. The old system, commonly known as the Protestant work ethic, no longer applies. Houses, cars, TVs, food....we have enough. Businesses have inventories they are trying to get rid of. There is no shortage.

The problem is a large number of people don't have money to buy the items because there aren't any jobs for them because there's an abundance of items.

You see, the world is going in the right direction. We now have people in underdeveloped countries doing jobs they're capable of doing and we have people here who can be retrained to do more specialized jobs. What is required, today, is philosophical discussions.

Philosophy: the rational investigation of the truths and principles of being, knowledge, or conduct. A system of principles for guidance in practical affairs. (Dictionary.com)

Technology and innovation has lessened man's burden. Just as the work week has become shorter and shorter common sense tells us it will result in some people not being required to work. As more and more lower skilled jobs are done by machines more and more lower skilled people will become unemployed. How do we deal with that?

The dynamic is changing and philosophical discussions are precisely what's needed.

Major religions and cultures tell us, through myth, that times are changing now. A paradigm shift, as they say. The old way doesn't work anymore.

[Dixie - In Memoriam]

Dixie, let me add a little more detail to my previous post.

You claim that liberals (which you have labelled me) are seeing that Obama is a mix of Clinton & Bush.

DADT was Clinton's answer to gays in the military. Obama's administration repealed that piece of bullshit. So he basically either slapped Clinton or called him gutless. Pick one.

I hate to burst your bubble, but the Obama Administration didn't repeal anything. They certainly could have repealed DADT, the same way Clinton initiated it, through a Defense Directive. (Executive Order) But... they didn't. They left this for the lame duck Congress, many of which, didn't have to worry about political repercussions, and of course, the Olympia Snowe/Susan Collins wing of the GOP... that's who repealed DADT, not the administration. Clinton at least had the balls to take a stand, Obama obfuscated.

[apple0154]

I hate to burst your bubble, but the Obama Administration didn't repeal anything. They certainly could have repealed DADT, the same way Clinton initiated it, through a Defense Directive. (Executive Order) But... they didn't. They left this for the lame duck Congress, many of which, didn't have to worry about political repercussions, and of course, the Olympia Snowe/Susan Collins wing of the GOP... that's who repealed DADT, not the administration. Clinton at least had the balls to take a stand, Obama obfuscated.

That's the ideal way. Do what's right without worrying about the repercussions.

Damn, those Liberals are good folks!

[Jarod]

I hate to burst your bubble, but the Obama Administration didn't repeal anything. They certainly could have repealed DADT, the same way Clinton initiated it, through a Defense Directive. (Executive Order) But... they didn't. They left this for the lame duck Congress, many of which, didn't have to worry about political repercussions, and of course, the Olympia Snowe/Susan Collins wing of the GOP... that's who repealed DADT, not the administration. Clinton at least had the balls to take a stand, Obama obfuscated.

You are soo off base... It would never have happened without Presidnet Obama's leadership and signature!

[Dixie - In Memoriam]

Hell, Obama has accomplished more than any other modern presidnet, in just two years. If you dont like the direction he is taking us, I can see why you would be pissed. I happen to like it, and am shocked at how much he was able to accomplish.

He may not get reelected but he has already accomplished more than Bush or Clinton did in 8 years.

More has been accomplished in two years of Obama, than 8 years of Clinton, under harsher conditions.

Now I agree that much of that was due to how badly Bush was hated, but hell he was able to take the power given to him and go!

I think I have to agree with you, Jarhead. Obama did what Slick Willie and Compassionate Conservatism couldn't do, he galvanized the conservative base like it hasn't been galvanized since Reagan. In two short years, he managed to erase all gains made by the liberals in the past decade, and reawaken America to the threat of internal Socialism. Wye, just a couple years ago, people calling Democrats Marxist and Socialist, were discounted as nuts and kooks, now they look like geniuses who were right all along, this is a monumental achievement Obama can take full credit for. And he's not done yet! For the next two years, he will attempt to position himself to the center, alienating his liberal base more and more, and the various special interests will begin to splinter within the party. Who would have ever thought that one man could do so much to destroy liberalism and revive conservatism?

[Dixie - In Memoriam]

You are soo off base... It would never have happened without Presidnet Obama's leadership and signature!

LMAO... Obama had plenty of opportunity to use his "leadership" and sign an executive order. Two years... plenty of time... why didn't he do that? Why did he repeatedly (when questioned about this) put this off on Congress, and avoid taking a position? And how the fuck do you now interpret this as his "leadership?" He didn't "lead" any goddamn thing, he sat on his hands and waited for a lame duck Congress to send him an illegitimately-voted-on bill for his signature, which he did oblige. Kind of a chicken shit way to pass legislation, if you ask me.

[USFREEDOM911]

I think I have to agree with you, Jarhead. Obama did what Slick Willie and Compassionate Conservatism couldn't do, he galvanized the conservative base like it hasn't been galvanized since Reagan. In two short years, he managed to erase all gains made by the liberals in the past decade, and reawaken America to the threat of internal Socialism. Wye, just a couple years ago, people calling Democrats Marxist and Socialist, were discounted as nuts and kooks, now they look like geniuses who were right all along, this is a monumental achievement Obama can take full credit for. And he's not done yet! For the next two years, he will attempt to position himself to the center, alienating his liberal base more and more, and the various special interests will begin to splinter within the party. Who would have ever thought that one man could do so much to destroy liberalism and revive conservatism?

And he made it possible for some guy to shove his cock in your mouth, while you're sitting at a bus stop.

PROOF THAT THERE IS A GOD.