"It [the draft] is duty rather than slavery. I part with the author on the caviler idea that individual freedom (whatever that may be to the person) leads to nirvana, anyone older that 12 knows that is BS."
-(Midcan5)
"Allow me to masturbate my patriotism furiously and publicly at this opportunity."
-(Ib1yysguy)
"There is no 'equal opportunity' today unless the government makes it so."
-(apple0154 )
"abortion is not killing Its birth control"
-(Desh)
I have not compared race and sexuality one single time, Dixie.
We have not continued to argue DADT because it needed to be passed. Someone made a post in celebration, and some backwards bigot starting listing all the bad things that will happen now. You joined in that listing, and are now upset because you have been shown to be wrong.
And the battle is still going on. Look back at your posts. You point out numerous times that there are still those who hate gays. How they feel does not bother me. What they do bothers me.
I enjoyed our debate, Dixie. Have a great day.
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LOCK HIM UP!
If they want me, they know where they can find me. Russian translators would be useful in Afghanistan. Of course, I doubt they want an aged fat guy who chose to leave the military after being offered a bonus to stay.
Excellence is an art won by training and habituation. We do not act rightly because we have virtue or excellence, but rather we have those because we have acted rightly. We are what we repeatedly do. Excellence, then, is not an act but a habit.
- -- Aristotle
Believe nothing on the faith of traditions, even though they have been held in honor for many generations and in diverse places. Do not believe a thing because many people speak of it. Do not believe on the faith of the sages of the past. Do not believe what you yourself have imagined, persuading yourself that a God inspires you. Believe nothing on the sole authority of your masters and priests. After examination, believe what you yourself have tested and found to be reasonable, and conform your conduct thereto.
- -- The Buddha
It is the mark of an educated mind to be able to entertain a thought without accepting it.
- -- Aristotle
"...Jimmy Carter is putting the out in outspokenness.
In an interview with bigthink.com, the former president was asked, “Is the country ready for a gay president?
Even as John McCain and other ossified Republicans were staging last-minute maneuvers to torpedo the “don’t ask, don’t tell” repeal, the 86-year-old Carter was envisioning a grander civil rights victory.
“I would say that the answer is yes,” he said. “I don’t know about the next election, but I think in the near future.”
http://www.nytimes.com/2010/12/19/opinion/19dowd.html
Here's to the end of our two leading "tyrannical" political parties and the restoration of our government of the people, by the people, for the people.
I do believe there are bigots and haters who would do just that, and not think twice about it, Immie. I'm sorry, I don't believe in a world where everyone has the same morality standards as I do, or would react the same way I would. I don't think MOST would do this, and I didn't say MOST would, but there are some. I don't think it has anything to do with "professionalism" it has everything to do with bigotry and how that works. Yep, it's deplorable to think this could happen, but I bet, if gays are open about their homosexuality to their fellow comrades, this will indeed happen, it's inevitable.
"It [the draft] is duty rather than slavery. I part with the author on the caviler idea that individual freedom (whatever that may be to the person) leads to nirvana, anyone older that 12 knows that is BS."
-(Midcan5)
"Allow me to masturbate my patriotism furiously and publicly at this opportunity."
-(Ib1yysguy)
"There is no 'equal opportunity' today unless the government makes it so."
-(apple0154 )
"abortion is not killing Its birth control"
-(Desh)
"It [the draft] is duty rather than slavery. I part with the author on the caviler idea that individual freedom (whatever that may be to the person) leads to nirvana, anyone older that 12 knows that is BS."
-(Midcan5)
"Allow me to masturbate my patriotism furiously and publicly at this opportunity."
-(Ib1yysguy)
"There is no 'equal opportunity' today unless the government makes it so."
-(apple0154 )
"abortion is not killing Its birth control"
-(Desh)
I suppose you are correct that there are some that would do it, but I have to say, there are many reasons that they would do it and not all of those reasons have anything at all to do with the sexual preference of the victim. I suppose that it could happen for any number of reasons such as maybe the victim picked up the other guys "date" last night? (meaning girl of course)
I would hope and do believe that the vast majority of our soldiers are above such actions and that the few "bad apples" that are out there would be weeded out very quickly.
I've been thinking about this discussion over the passed few days. It has been said that the "flamboyant" gays would not and have not joined the services. That does make sense. Which says to me, that those gays who are in the military are not going to suddenly start parading around in G-strings and feathers kissing and groping each other. Nor are they going to start making passes at straight soldiers trying to convert them. Thinking about it, I am hopeful that when the furor over the repeal of DADT fades away, nothing at all will have changed. Those gays who are serving will continue to do so and will continue to keep their private lives to themselves just as they always have.
At least that is what I am praying for.
Immie
Last edited by Immanuel; 12-21-2010 at 09:11 PM.
Here's to the end of our two leading "tyrannical" political parties and the restoration of our government of the people, by the people, for the people.
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