Reply With QuoteSocial society rights would be more accurate I think.
I remember going thru this natural rights argument a while back and I wound up convinced that there are no natural rights. Only rights our society grants us.
Watermelon
Yes. Pity he couldn't see his way through the logical fallacy there, but you can't have everything.Originally Posted by Damocles
"A revolution without dancing is a revolution not worth having."
-- V
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Social society rights would be more accurate I think.
I remember going thru this natural rights argument a while back and I wound up convinced that there are no natural rights. Only rights our society grants us.
Watermelon
Yeah, I think we've probably flogged that dead horse enough. I was just tweaking Damo's chain a little bit.
"A revolution without dancing is a revolution not worth having."
-- V
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Yes I have to yank his chain a bit from time to time about the "liberal" media as well. but he is ok, we agree more than disagree.
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Jefferson was a member of the Church of England. This is no mystery.
Ahahahaha, if you were one of my kids I would call you smart-ass...
Doesn't genius border on insanity?
Watermelon
Uhm, no: he wasn't. Not by choice, anyway.
"A revolution without dancing is a revolution not worth having."
-- V
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He grew up in that church. Later joined another, but wanted to be Unitarian. He said he would have been Unitarian, but there were no Unitarian churches in Virginia.Uhm, no: he wasn't. Not by choice, anyway.
He even believed that all of the US would one day be Unitarian.
When he wrote his own version of the New Testament he took out mention of Christ's Divinity...
He proclaimed himself a Deist.
He had many, many differing views. He also claimed himself a sect of one. Dude was not a member of the Anglican church as an adult.
Excellence is an art won by training and habituation. We do not act rightly because we have virtue or excellence, but rather we have those because we have acted rightly. We are what we repeatedly do. Excellence, then, is not an act but a habit.
- -- Aristotle
Believe nothing on the faith of traditions, even though they have been held in honor for many generations and in diverse places. Do not believe a thing because many people speak of it. Do not believe on the faith of the sages of the past. Do not believe what you yourself have imagined, persuading yourself that a God inspires you. Believe nothing on the sole authority of your masters and priests. After examination, believe what you yourself have tested and found to be reasonable, and conform your conduct thereto.
- -- The Buddha
It is the mark of an educated mind to be able to entertain a thought without accepting it.
- -- Aristotle
Watermelon
Exactly so. He was never a practicing member of the Church of England as an adult.
He also said, repeatedly, that he believed religious belief ought to be a private matter. When asked, he adamantly refused to describe his own beliefs or even say to what church he belonged. Most of what we know comes from his Life and Morals of Jesus of Nazareth -- which, I believe, was not commercially published until after his death -- and from private correspondence with other prominent figures of the day. We know it historically but it was not public knowledge during his life.
"A revolution without dancing is a revolution not worth having."
-- V
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