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    Quote Originally Posted by Damocles View Post
    *"It's important to keep in mind, and account for, the Anunnaki when speaking of Social Security Numbers."

    *Some time in the future, while running for office, this sentence will become the central theme of the opposition to my campaign.
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    Quote Originally Posted by apple0154 View Post
    Knowing your opponent's strategy in advance is half the battle already won.
    Hopefully we'll have outed the Anunnaki bastidges by then.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ice Dancer View Post
    Obama's father was apparently living in Conneticut at the time he became employed...maybe he was visiting his dad?

    Jun 12, 2010
    Obama Social Security Number Nonsense
    As I reported earlier, the "birthers" who claim that Barack Obama was born in Kenya making him ineligible to be President, are trying a new tack, claiming that the President's Social Security number must be a fake since it is a number that was being assigned at the time to people living in Connecticut even though Barack Obama was living in Hawaii at the time he took his first job. They managed to get questions asked about this asked at a White House press briefing.

    The Associated Content blog gives a possible explanation of the Social Security number, that Barack Obama was living not in Hawaii but in Indonesia at the time the Social Security number was assigned and that Obama obtained it by mail, using the return address of his father, who was divorced from his mother and living in Connecticut at the time. I think a simpler and more likely explanation is that Obama obtained his Social Security number while visiting his father in Connecticut. It would have been easier to have obtained that Social Security number by walking into an office while back in the U.S. on a visit rather than obtaining it while oveseas. Others who read this blog might have more knowledge of the process of issuing Social Security numbers to American citizens who were residing overseas back in that era. I suppose it is done now when a birth is registered with a U.S. embassy oveseas but there would have been a different process back in the 1970s.
    See? This is what I was looking for... If his father lived in Connecticut, he could easily have just sent paperwork in for him and passed on the SSN. That makes sense actually, and actually answers my question in the first post.

    Back in the day, there really was no reason to get a SSN until you began to work. I didn't get mine until I was 15 and got my first job that withheld taxes.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Damocles View Post
    See? This is what I was looking for... If his father lived in Connecticut, he could easily have just sent paperwork in for him and passed on the SSN. That makes sense actually, and actually answers my question in the first post.

    Back in the day, there really was no reason to get a SSN until you began to work. I didn't get mine until I was 15 and got my first job that withheld taxes.
    It was 1986 when the IRS demanded SS#'s on tax returns for dependents, until then you just claimed a number for dependents.

    I have not been able to find proof his dad "did" live there at the time, but this link claims he did.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ice Dancer View Post
    It was 1986 when the IRS demanded SS#'s on tax returns for dependents, until then you just claimed a number for dependents.

    I have not been able to find proof his dad "did" live there at the time, but this link claims he did.
    Right, it isn't evidence, but it gives somebody some direction. We can find out though, there's rental records, etc. That's how we found out the "My father left when I was 2" crap was BS and they had left his father behind long before he was 2. They moved to Washington state and lived there until after his father left Hawaii, there are rental and school records that prove his mother and he lived in Washington State while his father was still attending college in Hawaii...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Damocles View Post
    Right, it isn't evidence, but it gives somebody some direction. We can find out though, there's rental records, etc. That's how we found out the "My father left when I was 2" crap was BS and they had left his father behind long before he was 2. They moved to Washington state and lived there until after his father left Hawaii, there are rental and school records that prove his mother and he lived in Washington State while his father was still attending college in Hawaii...
    I just read that Obama Sr moved to Conneticutt when Jr. was 2? So he would have had to be living in CT from 1963/64 for more than 10 years to be the answer to the mystery of the CT SS#...should be easy enough to discover I suppose.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ice Dancer View Post
    I just read that Obama Sr moved to Conneticutt when Jr. was 2? So he would have had to be living in CT from 1963/64 for more than 10 years to be the answer to the mystery of the CT SS#...should be easy enough to discover I suppose.
    It depends on whether the report that the SSN was issued in 1977 to 79 is correct. If it is, then I think his father had died in an accident in Kenya before then, and he certainly wasn't still there as a student, not unless he was the worst student on the planet.... If it was issued while his father was still at Harvard it would make more sense.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Damocles View Post
    It depends on whether the report that the SSN was issued in 1977 to 79 is correct. If it is, then I think his father had died in an accident in Kenya before then, and he certainly wasn't still there as a student, not unless he was the worst student on the planet.... If it was issued while his father was still at Harvard it would make more sense.
    Sr died in 1982. Jr went to work in 1975/76? So he would have needed it then.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ice Dancer View Post
    Sr died in 1982. Jr went to work in 1975/76? So he would have needed it then.
    Yes, that was one of the mysteries about it. According to the PI who sought the information, the SSN was issued in 77 to 79, but his first job was in 75 at Baskin Robbins. I think his father was living in Kenya by the 70s, he went to Harvard when Obama was 2, it would take a cripplingly bad student to be there 10 years later...

    Of course I'm not sure, his father isn't somebody I've followed.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Damocles View Post
    Yes, that was one of the mysteries about it. According to the PI who sought the information, the SSN was issued in 77 to 79, but his first job was in 75 at Baskin Robbins. I think his father was living in Kenya by the 70s, he went to Harvard when Obama was 2, it would take a cripplingly bad student to be there 10 years later...

    Of course I'm not sure, his father isn't somebody I've followed.
    Apparently Obama's own words in his book make the claim that after 2 he only knew his father via stories from his mother and grandmother except for 1 visit from his father coming to Hawaii when he was 11? So no trip to CT by Jr? hmmmmmmmmmmm~~~

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ice Dancer View Post
    Apparently Obama's own words in his book make the claim that after 2 he only knew his father via stories from his mother and grandmother except for 1 visit from his father coming to Hawaii when he was 11? So no trip to CT by Jr? hmmmmmmmmmmm~~~
    The reality is he never lived with his father, his mother took him to WA where she went to college (they were there 20 days after his birth), she didn't return to HI until after Sr had left for Connecticut.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Damocles View Post
    The reality is he never lived with his father, his mother took him to WA where she went to college (they were there 20 days after his birth), she didn't return to HI until after Sr had left for Connecticut.
    So, the mystery continues~~~

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    Quote Originally Posted by Damocles View Post
    It depends on whether the report that the SSN was issued in 1977 to 79 is correct.

    Again, you can stop right there. Shouldn't you first try to determine if the report is correct before you start concocting wild theories about it?

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    Quote Originally Posted by NigelTufnel View Post
    Again, you can stop right there. Shouldn't you first try to determine if the report is correct before you start concocting wild theories about it?
    That's why I posted this, maroon. To see if somebody had more information. So far, the source was right about everything else, I have nothing to disprove them about that, if you do though, I'd sure like to see it.
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    Shorter Damo:

    Disprove this idiot:

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