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    Default Sandy Berger As We Suspected

    Gee, wonder if he'll be with Hillary or Obama?

    http://apnews.myway.com/article/20061220/D8M4R7DO0.html

    Report Says Berger Hid Archive Documents


    Dec 20, 5:05 PM (ET)

    By LARRY MARGASAK

    WASHINGTON (AP) - Former national security adviser Sandy Berger removed classified documents from the National Archives in 2003 and hid them under a construction trailer, the Archives inspector general reported Wednesday.

    The report was issued more than a year after Berger pleaded guilty and received a criminal sentence for removal of the documents.

    Inspector General Paul Brachfeld reported that when Berger was confronted by Archives officials about the missing documents, he said it was possible he threw them in his office trash.

    The report said that when Archives employees first suspected that Berger - who had been President Clinton's national security adviser - was removing classified documents from the Archives in the fall of 2003, they failed to notify any law enforcement agency.

    Berger, who pleaded guilty to unlawfully removing and retaining classified documents, was fined $50,000, ordered to perform 100 hours of community service and was barred from access to classified material for three years.

    The report said that when Berger was reviewing the classified documents in the Archives building a few blocks from the Capitol, employees saw him bending down and fiddling with something white, which could have been paper, around his ankle.

    However, Archives employees did not feel at the time there was enough information to confront someone of Berger's stature, the report said.

    Brachfeld reported that on one visit, Berger took a break to go outside without an escort.

    "In total, during this visit, he removed four documents ... .

    "Mr. Berger said he placed the documents under a trailer in an accessible construction area outside Archives 1 (the main Archives building)."

    Berger acknowledged that he later retrieved the documents from the construction area and returned with them to his office.

    Berger, with the authorization of former President Clinton, was reviewing National Security Council documents on Osama bin Laden and al-Qaida, Sudan, and related presidential correspondence. The review was to facilitate Berger's impending testimony before the House and Senate intelligence committees.

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    Imagine the media shit storm if Condi had done this.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MtnBiker View Post
    Imagine the media shit storm if Condi had done this.
    It's really unbelievable that he got such a light punishment, though the magistrate did up the $$$ fine. Of course, DOJ was for the lower amount, plea. They all take care of each other.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MtnBiker View Post
    Imagine the media shit storm if Condi had done this.
    Honestly, I think it would be about the same.
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    Quote Originally Posted by OrnotBitwise View Post
    Honestly, I think it would be about the same.

    I disagree, the punishment, yes. They really DO take care of each other. Mediawise, nope, it would be worse than Clarence Thomas confirmation.

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    Now perhaps, 1 year ago the media would have been hands off.

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    Quote Originally Posted by uscitizen View Post
    Now perhaps, 1 year ago the media would have been hands off.
    I don't think so, the media has never been fond of her. A year ago it was all about her excercise regime and shopping, while leading GW buy the you know whats.

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    Perhaps you are right. But then consider too that she is a minority female, the press does not want to appear to be picking on her.
    Look at all the stink the "demon eyes" retouched photo made

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    Quote Originally Posted by uscitizen View Post
    Perhaps you are right. But then consider too that she is a minority female, the press does not want to appear to be picking on her.
    Look at all the stink the "demon eyes" retouched photo made
    I think that had more to do, once again, by the MSM industry using photoshop so badly.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Runyon View Post
    It's really unbelievable that he got such a light punishment, though the magistrate did up the $$$ fine. Of course, DOJ was for the lower amount, plea. They all take care of each other.
    If I had done this when I was in the Navy, I'd still be in Leavenworth...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Damocles View Post
    If I had done this when I was in the Navy, I'd still be in Leavenworth...
    That was the point that Austin Bay and others made at the time. Of course, that was minimized in the press. Go figure.

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    Remember our elected /appointed representatives are not subject to the same laws that we that pay their salary are.

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    Quote Originally Posted by uscitizen View Post
    Remember our elected /appointed representatives are not subject to the same laws that we that pay their salary are.
    Not the same types of punishments, which was the point. The only 'legal' difference in the law though, has to do with arrest while in legislative session.

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    Nope, congress is exempt from sexual harassment laws, and many other laws.

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    Quote Originally Posted by uscitizen View Post
    Nope, congress is exempt from sexual harassment laws, and many other laws.
    You've got a point with that. My bad. You know, something should be done about that, sorta like earmarks. Seems it might be something liberal and conservative citizens could actually agree on?

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