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    Quote Originally Posted by Dark Soul View Post
    You paved the road when you stated "didn’t consummate their marriages till an appropriate age." History shows otherwise. There are even writings of his contemporaries making excuses for it.
    No there aren't any writings by the contemporaries ... Most hadiths came out of Persia more than 200 years after Muhammed.

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    Quote Originally Posted by kudzu View Post
    Aisha was born before the Call so she was 17 years old at a minimum.
    So older than Bart O'Kavanaugh's attempted rape victim.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Grugore View Post
    Something the Bible expressly forbids. Those priests are NOT Christians. Islam, on the other hand, encourages such behavior.
    That is an easily proven lie. On the other hand, until recently many States in America allowed 11 year olds to marry with parental approval. That was the "christian" way.

    BTW, Mohammed did not marry the 9 year old. He did cite her as his intended, and married her when she became of age.
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    Quote Originally Posted by kudzu View Post
    No there aren't any writings by the contemporaries ... Most hadiths came out of Persia more than 200 years after Muhammed.
    And the source of the writings? Oral tradition.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dark Soul View Post
    And the source of the writings? Oral tradition.
    Euros had to discount that when they rolled over, genocided and rewrote histories of those they colonized. Still do that sort of thing; alternative facts.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dark Soul View Post
    And the source of the writings? Oral tradition.
    There were some 60,000 unauthenticated hadiths from Persia.. You know the game "telephone"?

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    Quote Originally Posted by kudzu View Post
    Aisha was born before the Call. .. so she was 17 at a minimum.
    Ok, I am not sure where you are getting that from but I think you're confusing Aisha with Fatima. She was as born five years before the Call and was about five years older than Aisha. Hence she was around ten when betrothed.

    The Isaba, speaking of the Prophet’s daughter Fatima, says that she was born five years before the Call and was about five years older than Aisha. This shows that Aisha must have been about ten years at the time of her betrothal to the Prophet, and not six years as she is generally supposed to be. This is further borne out by the fact that Aisha herself is reported to have stated that when the chapter [of the Holy Quran] entitled The Moon, the fifty-fourth chapter, was revealed, she was a girl playing about and remembered certain verses then revealed. Now the fifty-fourth chapter was undoubtedly revealed before the sixth year of the Call. All these considerations point to but one conclusion, viz., that Aisha could not have been less than ten years of age at the time of her nikah, which was virtually only a betrothal.
    http://www.muslim.org/islam/aisha-age.htm

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    Quote Originally Posted by Havana Moon View Post
    Ok, I am not sure where you are getting that from but I think you're confusing Aisha with Fatima. She was as born five years before the Call and was about five years older than Aisha. Hence she was around ten when betrothed.



    http://www.muslim.org/islam/aisha-age.htm

    I think you are confusing Fatima for Asma.


    “She was the sister of Aisha Siddiqa, wife of the Holy Prophet, and was ten years older than her. … In 73 A.H. … Asma died at the age of one hundred years.” [6]



    This would make Asma 28 years of age in 1 A.H., the year of the Hijra, thus making Aisha 18 years old in 1 A.H. So Aisha would be 19 years old at the time of the consummation of her marriage, and 14 or 15 years old at the time of her nikah. It would place her year of birth at four or five years before the Call.


    http://www.muslim.org/islam/aisha-age.htm

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    Quote Originally Posted by Old Trapper View Post
    That is an easily proven lie. On the other hand, until recently many States in America allowed 11 year olds to marry with parental approval. That was the "christian" way.

    BTW, Mohammed did not marry the 9 year old. He did cite her as his intended, and married her when she became of age.
    Why don't you show evidence of the last time an 11 year old was able to marry with parental consent in the U.S.

    Massachusetts allows females to marry at age 12 with parental consent. That must be the left wing way.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dark Soul View Post
    And the source of the writings? Oral tradition.
    Interesting how kuntzu has no problem automatically accepting the writings of those that never met Muhammed but questions those of the people writing about Jesus although they never met Him.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dark Soul View Post
    You paved the road when you stated "didn’t consummate their marriages till an appropriate age." History shows otherwise. There are even writings of his contemporaries making excuses for it.
    Yes...we've been noticing that this has been a problem for Catholics.
    You're Never Alone With A Schizophrenic!

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    Quote Originally Posted by CFM View Post
    Interesting how kuntzu has no problem automatically accepting the writings of those that never met Muhammed but questions those of the people writing about Jesus although they never met Him.

    Are you stupid or what? Writings about Muhammed came from Persia 200 years after his death. Writings about Jesus were written 100 years after the crucifixion.. and some of them never met Jesus either.

    Neither one had people writing down private conversations.

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    Quote Originally Posted by kudzu View Post
    I think you are confusing Fatima for Asma.


    “She was the sister of Aisha Siddiqa, wife of the Holy Prophet, and was ten years older than her. … In 73 A.H. … Asma died at the age of one hundred years.” [6]



    This would make Asma 28 years of age in 1 A.H., the year of the Hijra, thus making Aisha 18 years old in 1 A.H. So Aisha would be 19 years old at the time of the consummation of her marriage, and 14 or 15 years old at the time of her nikah. It would place her year of birth at four or five years before the Call.


    http://www.muslim.org/islam/aisha-age.htm
    Well either you are wrong or that website is, so mightily confused now!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mott the Hoople View Post
    Yes...we've been noticing that this has been a problem for Catholics.
    Since I've destroyed your position you change the subject. No surprise...

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    Quote Originally Posted by kudzu View Post
    There were some 60,000 unauthenticated hadiths from Persia.. You know the game "telephone"?
    Your point?

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