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    Default All you Tea Party rebellion folks....

    Do you consider Timothy McVeigh a hero for attacking the federal government?
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    What a stupid question. I am not a Tea Party person (I don't think) but this is so typical of the left's efforts of late.

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    In order to qualify as a hero one must first be successful in advancing his cause.

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    Quote Originally Posted by leaningright View Post
    What a stupid question. I am not a Tea Party person (I don't think) but this is so typical of the left's efforts of late.
    You have to understand, certain people on the left are incapable of doing anything other than what their masters tell them to do (and think). The same can be said about some of the lunatics on the far right. Jarod is simply a moron, incapable of forming his own thoughts. I took him off ignore recently, which was obviously a mistake. He clearly hasn't changed at all.
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    They use mean annual and five year means in trend analysis. Don't tell me I have to explain the difference to you. "

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    ahhh... that is much better...
    Quote from Cypress:
    "Scientists don't use "averages". Maybe armchair supertools on message boards ascribe some meaning to "averages" between two random data points. And maybe clueless amatuers "draw a straight line" through two random end data points to define a "trend". Experts don't.

    They use mean annual and five year means in trend analysis. Don't tell me I have to explain the difference to you. "

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    Seventeen years ago, on April 19, 1993, the FBI finished off its siege of the Branch Davidians’ home just outside Waco, Texas, by pumping poisonous and flammable CS gas into a room filled with women and children, driving a tank through the wall, throwing incendiary devices at the survivors and, most likely, spraying them with machinegun fire. The conflagration that engulfed the lives of seventy-six people of diverse international and ethnic backgrounds and of all ages, who had been brought together under the fringe but peaceful religious separatism of David Koresh, came at the end of a 51-day standoff that began when the ATF bungled a public-relations stunt in the form of an aggressive raid of the Davidian home, which had been practiced on life-size model buildings and whose planning began in the lame-duck years of the first Bush administration. Koresh could have easily been arrested without all this fanfare and violence – he was an integrated member of the town, and law enforcement had visited the Davidian home and even fired weapons with him at their shooting range – but the ATF had made sure the press would be there to witness their chivalrous swooping in and capture of this menace of Mt. Carmel. Meth lab! Weapons stockpiles! Child molesters! The excuses for this federal militarism in the heart of Texas were numerous and shifting. But when it was all done, a peaceful American community had been utterly destroyed by the U.S. government.

    It was an event that crystallized and radicalized populist rightwing anger at the Clinton administration. The left, for the most part, stood by the federal government, swallowed its propaganda about how the Davidians killed themselves, had been a threat to the community, were stockpiling illegal weapons and harboring child abuse. At the White House press conference, journalists applauded the regime. Liberals mocked the religious nuts and began stoking fears that such extremists were not the last. They were thankful to be "protected" by the FBI. Only the most anti-establishment leftists joined the populist right and radical libertarians in their denunciation of this act of governmental mass murder.
    I guess to some, he might have been.
    A sad commentary on we, as a people, and our viewpoint of our freedom can be summed up like this. We have liberals and conservatives, Democrats and Republicans, yet those very people look at Constitutionalists as radical and extreme.................so those liberals and conservatives, Democrats and Republicans must believe that the constitution is radical and extreme.

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    So, smarter is the only one brave enough to give a sorta an answer....


    And, no, to be a hero you do not have to be be successfull.
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    I consider the German men and women who tried to stand up to the Natzis heros... yet they wwere not successful.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jarod View Post
    I consider the German men and women who tried to stand up to the Natzis heros... yet they wwere not successful.
    Actually, they were, just not immediately so.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Southern Man View Post
    Actually, they were, just not immediately so.
    Nope, it took the allied forces to do what they tried to accomplish.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jarod View Post
    So, smarter is the only one brave enough to give a sorta an answer....


    And, no, to be a hero you do not have to be be successfull.
    Yes it takes such "bravery" to answer one of the most retarded questions ever posted on this board. And considering the number of freaking stupid posts this board has seen over the years that's paying you high praise.

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    Quote Originally Posted by cawacko View Post
    Yes it takes such "bravery" to answer one of the most retarded questions ever posted on this board. And considering the number of freaking stupid posts this board has seen over the years that's paying you high praise.
    SO, whats the answer?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jarod View Post
    Do you consider Timothy McVeigh a hero for attacking the federal government?
    Answer: No.

    Do you find that you need to shower after asking questions like this?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jarod View Post
    Nope, it took the allied forces to do what they tried to accomplish.
    Their job was made easier by internal German rebellions like you described, along with Hitler's insane destruction of his own human resources and the huge effort it took to do that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jarod View Post
    SO, whats the answer?
    The answer is No.

    Do you find the guy who shot four Oakland police offices a last year a hero?

    I ask because a good number of liberals hate the police and support killing them.

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