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    Quote Originally Posted by Socrtease View Post
    If that is true, you should pack your warm weather clothes.
    Sorry for you, I'm living Right.

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    Quote Originally Posted by AnyOldIron View Post
    All definitions of religion involve some form of supernatural force.

    It is just a gathering. By your definition schools are religious; places where people congregate to pass on information. They have ceremonies in schools. From the movie Grease I know you have pep rallies in the US.
    We didn't have pep rallies at my high school. Remember, Grease was supposed to depict the 50s. I'm sure they still go on in schools that are really big into sports...

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    does anyone else find it amusing that the guy denying atheism is a religion calls himself an atheist missionary?......

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    Quote Originally Posted by PostmodernProphet View Post
    does anyone else find it amusing that the guy denying atheism is a religion calls himself an atheist missionary?......
    Missionaries don't have to be religious.

    http://www.google.co.uk/search?hl=en...ed=0CDQQ1QIoAQ

    A missionary is someone who brings a message to people.

    Religious stuff innately has to have some supernatural element...

    religion

    • noun 1 the belief in and worship of a superhuman controlling power, especially a personal God or gods. 2 a particular system of faith and worship. 3 a pursuit or interest followed with devotion.



    http://www.askoxford.com/concise_oed...ligion?view=uk
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    Quote Originally Posted by AnyOldIron View Post

    A missionary is someone who brings a message to people.
    you forgot to capitalize it....let me help "brings a Message to people".....there you go.....

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    Quote Originally Posted by AnyOldIron View Post
    Religious stuff innately has to have some supernatural element...

    [B]religion

    • noun 1 the belief in and worship of a superhuman controlling power, especially a personal God or gods. 2 a particular system of faith and worship. 3 a pursuit or interest followed with devotion.
    if it innately has to have a supernatural element, why are there two other definitions of "religion" which don't have a supernatural element....two definitions which clearly would apply to atheism, by the way......

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    Quote Originally Posted by PostmodernProphet View Post
    you forgot to capitalize it....let me help "brings a Message to people".....there you go.....
    Not if I were speaking English.

    If you meant capitalisation in the Christian manner, it would be the Message.

    But I meant 'bring a message to people'.
    Sometimes people don't want to hear the truth because they don't want their illusions destroyed.

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    Quote Originally Posted by PostmodernProphet View Post
    if it innately has to have a supernatural element, why are there two other definitions of "religion" which don't have a supernatural element....two definitions which clearly would apply to atheism, by the way......
    There is no worship or devotion in atheism.

    There is only faith inasmuch as no knowledge can be absolute.
    Sometimes people don't want to hear the truth because they don't want their illusions destroyed.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Damocles View Post
    LOL. I know it bugs people to think that, but it is much like calling Buddhism a faith. We don't worry about gods, yet it is a "religion" because they meet regularly, speak to morality, and have marriages, etc.

    However, there are currently in the US "congregations" of atheists who hold all the trappings of religion. There was a big show about them on the tube just a week or so ago. It was fascinating. Weddings, etc. They even talk about how their morality is soooo much better than the God Believers' morality during their "congregations"...

    That is flat a religion now. Just because you, like many Christians, don't show up to the meetings doesn't change that...
    Where was that?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Damocles View Post
    they "congregate" regularly
    No, atheists do not. I have no idea what you are talking about.

    If we were to make a church, what would we do? Make fun of religious people all the time? That's only fun to a point.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Damocles View Post
    Untrue, there is no "supernatural" force in Theravada Buddhism.
    You said you believe in karma as a literal force. It would have to be supernatural.

    Wait, are you Theravada?

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    Quote Originally Posted by PostmodernProphet View Post
    lol......so says the loser.....
    PiMP has spoken, all hail the PiMP!! I suppose we ought to be grateful that you didn't say looser.

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    Quote Originally Posted by tom prendergast View Post
    PiMP has spoken, all hail the PiMP!! I suppose we ought to be grateful that you didn't say looser.
    I'm a bit disappointed in your groveling.....if you were sincere I would expect the dirt to be on your nose instead of your mind.......

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bittermark View Post
    No, atheists do not. I have no idea what you are talking about.

    If we were to make a church, what would we do? Make fun of religious people all the time? That's only fun to a point.
    Hey, watermark. Some do. You might not like it, but some do, they perform marriages in their "Congregations", they actually have a leader who preaches humanist morality and other things...

    The reality is, some people most definitely do treat it as, and participate in it as, a religion. I've made this point before, I'll make it again, and it is very real.
    Excellence is an art won by training and habituation. We do not act rightly because we have virtue or excellence, but rather we have those because we have acted rightly. We are what we repeatedly do. Excellence, then, is not an act but a habit.
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    Believe nothing on the faith of traditions, even though they have been held in honor for many generations and in diverse places. Do not believe a thing because many people speak of it. Do not believe on the faith of the sages of the past. Do not believe what you yourself have imagined, persuading yourself that a God inspires you. Believe nothing on the sole authority of your masters and priests. After examination, believe what you yourself have tested and found to be reasonable, and conform your conduct thereto.
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    It is the mark of an educated mind to be able to entertain a thought without accepting it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bittermark View Post
    You said you believe in karma as a literal force. It would have to be supernatural.

    Wait, are you Theravada?
    That is me, not all Buddhists. When I said that I made it clear that Theravada Buddhism doesn't cover this at all and that they were my personal beliefs.

    What part of that is difficult for you to understand?
    Excellence is an art won by training and habituation. We do not act rightly because we have virtue or excellence, but rather we have those because we have acted rightly. We are what we repeatedly do. Excellence, then, is not an act but a habit.
    - -- Aristotle

    Believe nothing on the faith of traditions, even though they have been held in honor for many generations and in diverse places. Do not believe a thing because many people speak of it. Do not believe on the faith of the sages of the past. Do not believe what you yourself have imagined, persuading yourself that a God inspires you. Believe nothing on the sole authority of your masters and priests. After examination, believe what you yourself have tested and found to be reasonable, and conform your conduct thereto.
    - -- The Buddha

    It is the mark of an educated mind to be able to entertain a thought without accepting it.
    - -- Aristotle

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