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    Quote Originally Posted by Socrtease View Post
    I don't think people deny this stuff is happening, I think there are just lots of people who don't think that humans have had more than justa negligible effect if any. How do the AGWers continue their claims with very little VERIFIABLE proof that we have had an impact that matters?
    The mechanism is understood. We know that CO2 levels are going up. We know this has correlated with a temperature rise. We have correlation and causation.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Damocles View Post
    Watermark still believes in the "hockey stick"....
    That's because waterstain is a hockey stick.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Watermark View Post
    The mechanism is understood. We know that CO2 levels are going up. We know this has correlated with a temperature rise. We have correlation and causation.

    wrong. Temps lead CO2 changes. Temps cause CO2 concentration because the oceans, when they warm, sequester less CO2 than when they're colder, so THAT'S what modulates the concentration of CO2

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    You're a fucking idiot. Stop reading conservative mind poison. Open your mind to the truth, get out of the RELIGION OF CLIMATE DENIALISM. Climate deniers need to be locked up for life, they're the most dangerous crazy people alive. They're just lucky we don't blow they're fuckign heads off, these diseased men, they deserve it. They deny all the evidence in the world, they are fucking psychopaths, worthless as human beings.
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    Quote Originally Posted by tinfoil View Post
    wrong. Temps lead CO2 changes. Temps cause CO2 concentration because the oceans, when they warm, sequester less CO2 than when they're colder, so THAT'S what modulates the concentration of CO2
    what about the increases in methane in the atmosphere...you know, that other greenhouse gas
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    Quote Originally Posted by DonQuixote View Post
    what about the increases in methane in the atmosphere...you know, that other greenhouse gas
    Did i say anything about methane?
    CARBON
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    do I have to repeat myself again?

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    Quote Originally Posted by tinfoil View Post
    Did i say anything about methane?
    CARBON
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    do I have to repeat myself again?
    methane contains carbon...CH4
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    Quote Originally Posted by Threedee View Post
    Other greenhouse gas? What about Nitrogen, H2O, etc.?
    just the ones that are increasing in the atmosphere
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    Quote Originally Posted by DonQuixote View Post
    methane contains carbon...CH4
    The clue is in the name, methane is the simplest example of a hydrocarbon.

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    Methane in the atmosphere is eventually oxidized, producing carbon dioxide and water. As a result, methane in the atmosphere has a half life of seven years.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DonQuixote View Post
    how do the global warming / climate change deniers explain the shrinking Artic ice cap, shrinking Greenland glaciers and pacific islands becoming underwater (rising sea level)
    Bottom line: A lot of folks on both sides of the debate forget this key fact: true environmental scientist point to man made pollution, deforestation and urbanization as ACCELERANTS of the earth's natural climatic changes.....and NOT the sole cause. It's like saying, "well, some of the wood on this house is going to rot within 20 years", and then when someone throws all the wrong oils, liquids and chemicals on it for 8 years and the wood starts noticeably rotting in by 12 years, you have a group of people swearing that the mistreatment had nothing to do with the rot.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Taichiliberal View Post
    Bottom line: A lot of folks on both sides of the debate forget this key fact: true environmental scientist point to man made pollution, deforestation and urbanization as ACCELERANTS of the earth's natural climatic changes.....and NOT the sole cause. It's like saying, "well, some of the wood on this house is going to rot within 20 years", and then when someone throws all the wrong oils, liquids and chemicals on it for 8 years and the wood starts noticeably rotting in by 12 years, you have a group of people swearing that the mistreatment had nothing to do with the rot.
    How much has it accelerated the process? That is the answer that is still not clear.

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