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    how do the global warming / climate change deniers explain the shrinking Artic ice cap, shrinking Greenland glaciers and pacific islands becoming underwater (rising sea level)
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    It's not happening and it's due to sunspots.
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    The same way the previous ice ages ended is the way I'm going with it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by CaptBillyTheKid View Post
    The same way the previous ice ages ended is the way I'm going with it.
    Except much faster, causing much more catastrophe.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Watermark View Post
    Except much faster, causing much more catastrophe.
    Speculation. And for the most part, I couldn't care less.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Watermark View Post
    Except much faster, causing much more catastrophe.
    except, if you look at the ice core temperature graphs, it's happening slower.....
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    Quote Originally Posted by PostmodernProphet View Post
    except, if you look at the ice core temperature graphs, it's happening slower.....
    Watermark still believes in the "hockey stick"....
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    Quote Originally Posted by DonQuixote View Post
    how do the global warming / climate change deniers explain the shrinking Artic ice cap, shrinking Greenland glaciers and pacific islands becoming underwater (rising sea level)
    I don't think people deny this stuff is happening, I think there are just lots of people who don't think that humans have had more than justa negligible effect if any. How do the AGWers continue their claims with very little VERIFIABLE proof that we have had an impact that matters?

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    How? like this
    Gore says polar ice will be gone by 2013. Which will be bullshit like every other alarmist predictions he's made.
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    Quote Originally Posted by DonQuixote View Post
    how do the global warming / climate change deniers explain the shrinking Artic ice cap, shrinking Greenland glaciers and pacific islands becoming underwater (rising sea level)

    what a ******* idiot!!

    read a book about climate cycles
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    Quote Originally Posted by Watermark View Post
    Except much faster, causing much more catastrophe.
    LOL dumbass, learn about how the case for "unprecedented warming " was built using faulty data.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Topspin View Post
    How? like this
    Gore says polar ice will be gone by 2013. Which will be bullshit like every other alarmist predictions he's made.
    http://wattsupwiththat.com/2009/03/0...ar-ice-trends/
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    Quote Originally Posted by CaptBillyTheKid View Post
    Speculation. And for the most part, I couldn't care less.
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    It's become apparent to me that watermark really doesn't get how tree ring methods for deriving temps don't work past 1960. He doesn't understand that the divergence problem was this fact. It's only natural to ask why tree rings can be used derive temps prior to 1960 when it's well known that the results are not reliable after 1960.

    Of course we know we have no choice but to use proxies to derive past temps when we don't have data, but lets use the same methods for all the series in a graph and not mix and mate 100% accurate temps from one point forward, and use proxy derived temps with error margins greater than the (sum of the alarming) warming for 150 years for the temps before that point

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