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    Default shrinking artic ice and pacific islands going underwater

    how do the global warming / climate change deniers explain the shrinking Artic ice cap, shrinking Greenland glaciers and pacific islands becoming underwater (rising sea level)
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    It's not happening and it's due to sunspots.
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    The same way the previous ice ages ended is the way I'm going with it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by CaptBillyTheKid View Post
    The same way the previous ice ages ended is the way I'm going with it.
    Except much faster, causing much more catastrophe.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Watermark View Post
    Except much faster, causing much more catastrophe.
    Speculation. And for the most part, I couldn't care less.
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    Quote Originally Posted by CaptBillyTheKid View Post
    Speculation. And for the most part, I couldn't care less.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Watermark View Post
    Except much faster, causing much more catastrophe.
    except, if you look at the ice core temperature graphs, it's happening slower.....
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    Quote Originally Posted by PostmodernProphet View Post
    except, if you look at the ice core temperature graphs, it's happening slower.....
    Watermark still believes in the "hockey stick"....
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    Quote Originally Posted by Damocles View Post
    Watermark still believes in the "hockey stick"....
    That's because waterstain is a hockey stick.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Watermark View Post
    Except much faster, causing much more catastrophe.
    LOL dumbass, learn about how the case for "unprecedented warming " was built using faulty data.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DonQuixote View Post
    how do the global warming / climate change deniers explain the shrinking Artic ice cap, shrinking Greenland glaciers and pacific islands becoming underwater (rising sea level)
    I don't think people deny this stuff is happening, I think there are just lots of people who don't think that humans have had more than justa negligible effect if any. How do the AGWers continue their claims with very little VERIFIABLE proof that we have had an impact that matters?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Socrtease View Post
    I don't think people deny this stuff is happening, I think there are just lots of people who don't think that humans have had more than justa negligible effect if any. How do the AGWers continue their claims with very little VERIFIABLE proof that we have had an impact that matters?
    The mechanism is understood. We know that CO2 levels are going up. We know this has correlated with a temperature rise. We have correlation and causation.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Watermark View Post
    The mechanism is understood. We know that CO2 levels are going up. We know this has correlated with a temperature rise. We have correlation and causation.

    wrong. Temps lead CO2 changes. Temps cause CO2 concentration because the oceans, when they warm, sequester less CO2 than when they're colder, so THAT'S what modulates the concentration of CO2

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    Quote Originally Posted by tinfoil View Post
    wrong. Temps lead CO2 changes. Temps cause CO2 concentration because the oceans, when they warm, sequester less CO2 than when they're colder, so THAT'S what modulates the concentration of CO2
    what about the increases in methane in the atmosphere...you know, that other greenhouse gas
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