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    Default Fifteen very bad things Republicans would do if they got their selfish way

    by Dennis Rahkonen * November 12, 2009 - 12:11pm

    Always the political instrument of moneyed elites, and a retrograde societal force, the GOP today is more negatively impactful than ever. Its agenda, if fully implemented, would prove catastrophic. Here's what an unfettered Republican Party would do "for" America:

    1) Greatly reduce or entirely eliminate taxes on the rich, thereby forcing hard-pressed working families to painfully make up resulting revenue shortfalls.

    2) Bust labor unions, cruelly preventing the collective bargaining that's the key reason why US workers ever won decent wages and benefits.

    3) Stubbornly deny the existence of ominous climate change while blithely pumping more pollutants into the environment from lucrative, dirty industries and practices. Although reputable scientists say 350 carbon parts per atmospheric million is the safe limit for sustained life on Earth, Republicans dismiss the frightening fact that we're already at a carbon level of roughly 390 ppm.

    4) Remove "restrictive" regulations on everything from investment banks and credit card companies to a broad array of "profit-eroding" consumer protections, leaving the American masses exposed to a host of resulting abuses and dangers.

    5) Continue to criticize and insufficiently fund public education, advocating private schooling instead, thus entirely ignoring that progressive public systems are used in every country that has education outcomes superior to our own.

    6) Outlaw abortion, under a fraudulently moral guise, compelling the US to bloodily join those benighted, backward nations where thousands of already-born, living, breathing, socially functioning females perish because of sexist denials of their basic reproductive rights.

    7) Continue to recite a Pledge of Allegiance whose last six words are "with liberty and justice for all," while remaining numbly oblivious to the harsh hypocrisy of preventing our homosexual citizens from marrying.

    8) Speak often and loftily of freedom, but engage in secret wiretapping, repression of domestic dissent, neo-McCarthyite witch hunts, Red-baiting name calling, and a panoply of Patriot Act transgressions against the Constitution of the United States...all under the misused rubric of "national security."

    9) Show the rest of humankind nothing but bullying world-cop arrogance through endless US interventions and aggressions on foreign soil, resulting not just in countless lives extinguished in indefensible wars, and billions of badly-needed dollars flushed down the drain, but constant al Qaeda recruitment against hated Yankee interlopers.

    10) Generally drive down the income levels of America's working-class majority, as a purported cost-saving corporate measure, without appreciating that a populace that's too poor to buy back what society produces is doomed to economic ruin. A living wage is the ultimate "stimulus," but try to find even one Republican who favors it!

    11) Continue to lie about the alternative, affordable health care for all that some fifty world nations' people overwhelmingly support, thereby propagandistically leading Americans to think that having private insurance whose premiums are rising at rates three times higher than our pay -- and which routinely denies coverage when it's required most -- is somehow preferable

    12) Unleash de facto ethnic cleansing against 12 million immigrant men, women, and children, making them contemporary equivalents of the Jewish scapegoats that Hitler blamed for hardships Germans experienced during a prior period of capitalist economic distress.

    13) Shamefully try to lend credence to their avarice and social irresponsibility by revising the Bible to obscure passages that place human need before abject greed, attempting to turn it into a facilitating guide for modern peers of the temple moneychangers whose tables Jesus angrily knocked to the floor (and who undoubtedly wouldn't be mentioned in the amended version that one conservative group is actually, amazingly trying to put into circulation).

    14) Give full vent to the intensely bigoted hatred that has crazed extremists dreaming of literally tearing Barack Obama to pieces and gassing all liberals...if only they could.

    15) Place the livelihoods and lives of over 300 million Americans in the hands of incompetent ideological "purists" such as Sarah Palin.

    While there are certainly Democrats who've yet to show spine in furtherance of vital change, let's be absolutely clear about the unmitigated disaster that would follow if Republicans, in their present ultra-rightist incarnation, ruled our country exactly as they wickedly wished.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Yurt View Post
    Wow. That' actually still number 1.
    "Do not think that I came to bring peace... I did not come to bring peace, but a sword." - Matthew 10:34

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    Republicans won't do anything in their selfish way. They go batshit nuts out of power but don't do anything different from the Democrats.
    "Do not think that I came to bring peace... I did not come to bring peace, but a sword." - Matthew 10:34

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    Quote Originally Posted by Watermark View Post
    Wow. That' actually still number 1.
    lol...i just typed it and yep

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    Quote Originally Posted by signalmankenneth View Post
    by Dennis Rahkonen * November 12, 2009 - 12:11pm

    Always the political instrument of moneyed elites, and a retrograde societal force, the GOP today is more negatively impactful than ever. Its agenda, if fully implemented, would prove catastrophic. Here's what an unfettered Republican Party would do "for" America:

    "1) Greatly reduce or entirely eliminate taxes on the rich, thereby forcing hard-pressed working families to painfully make up resulting revenue shortfalls."

    Idiotic.... under the Bush tax cuts the percentage paid by the top 50% went UP not down.


    "2) Bust labor unions, cruelly preventing the collective bargaining that's the key reason why US workers ever won decent wages and benefits."

    No, but they will prevent the unions from destroying the democratic process of secret ballots. The democrats on the other hand want to allow the intimidation of workers and the elimination of the secret ballot.

    "3) Stubbornly deny the existence of ominous climate change while blithely pumping more pollutants into the environment from lucrative, dirty industries and practices. Although reputable scientists say 350 carbon parts per atmospheric million is the safe limit for sustained life on Earth, Republicans dismiss the frightening fact that we're already at a carbon level of roughly 390 ppm."

    Eleven years with no more global warming. So NOW it is 'climate change' that is the problem? When are you morons going to learn that the climate is ALWAYS changing?


    "4) Remove "restrictive" regulations on everything from investment banks and credit card companies to a broad array of "profit-eroding" consumer protections, leaving the American masses exposed to a host of resulting abuses and dangers."

    Actually those regulations were already removed by Bill Clinton.

    "5) Continue to criticize and insufficiently fund public education, advocating private schooling instead, thus entirely ignoring that progressive public systems are used in every country that has education outcomes superior to our own."

    The US public education system teaches to the lowest common denominator. It is time the morons in the teachers union were actually held accountable for their dismal performance.

    "6) Outlaw abortion, under a fraudulently moral guise, compelling the US to bloodily join those benighted, backward nations where thousands of already-born, living, breathing, socially functioning females perish because of sexist denials of their basic reproductive rights."

    What a crock of shit. Allowing women to arbitrarily take a human life and call it a basic reproductive right? That is quite barbaric of you.

    7) Continue to recite a Pledge of Allegiance whose last six words are "with liberty and justice for all," while remaining numbly oblivious to the harsh hypocrisy of preventing our homosexual citizens from marrying.

    While I do believe the government should be out of the marriage business all together, I will agree that far too many republicans are against the equal opportunity of gay couples to fuck themselves by getting married.

    "8) Speak often and loftily of freedom, but engage in secret wiretapping, repression of domestic dissent, neo-McCarthyite witch hunts, Red-baiting name calling, and a panoply of Patriot Act transgressions against the Constitution of the United States...all under the misused rubric of "national security.""

    Funny, tell us... under a Dem President, with a Dem led House and a Dem led Senate... has that changed?


    "9) Show the rest of humankind nothing but bullying world-cop arrogance through endless US interventions and aggressions on foreign soil, resulting not just in countless lives extinguished in indefensible wars, and billions of badly-needed dollars flushed down the drain, but constant al Qaeda recruitment against hated Yankee interlopers."

    Under a DEM WH and DEM Congress.... are we still in AFghanistan and Iraq?

    "10) Generally drive down the income levels of America's working-class majority, as a purported cost-saving corporate measure, without appreciating that a populace that's too poor to buy back what society produces is doomed to economic ruin. A living wage is the ultimate "stimulus," but try to find even one Republican who favors it!"

    Show me one example of REpublicans driving down income levels of Americans.

    "11) Continue to lie about the alternative, affordable health care for all that some fifty world nations' people overwhelmingly support, thereby propagandistically leading Americans to think that having private insurance whose premiums are rising at rates three times higher than our pay -- and which routinely denies coverage when it's required most -- is somehow preferable"

    Moron. Health care costs are rising just as fast for Medicare and Medicaid.

    "12) Unleash de facto ethnic cleansing against 12 million immigrant men, women, and children, making them contemporary equivalents of the Jewish scapegoats that Hitler blamed for hardships Germans experienced during a prior period of capitalist economic distress."

    Wow... that is truly the most ignorant comment yet.

    "13) Shamefully try to lend credence to their avarice and social irresponsibility by revising the Bible to obscure passages that place human need before abject greed, attempting to turn it into a facilitating guide for modern peers of the temple moneychangers whose tables Jesus angrily knocked to the floor (and who undoubtedly wouldn't be mentioned in the amended version that one conservative group is actually, amazingly trying to put into circulation)."

    Ok, it is quite obvious someone is smoking crack now.

    "14) Give full vent to the intensely bigoted hatred that has crazed extremists dreaming of literally tearing Barack Obama to pieces and gassing all liberals...if only they could."

    Oh yeah, the crack pipe is lit and been under use for a while at this point.

    "15) Place the livelihoods and lives of over 300 million Americans in the hands of incompetent ideological "purists" such as Sarah Palin."

    put the crack pipe down son.

    While there are certainly Democrats who've yet to show spine in furtherance of vital change, let's be absolutely clear about the unmitigated disaster that would follow if Republicans, in their present ultra-rightist incarnation, ruled our country exactly as they wickedly wished.
    idiot.

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    I would hazard that all 15 points are a strawman.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mott the Hoople View Post
    I would hazard that all 15 points are a strawman.
    that and more

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    Quote Originally Posted by Yurt View Post
    that and more
    Actually, if he had eliminated his hyperbole and his misrepresentations he very well could have made all 15 points. For example point #1. Republicans do want to shift the burden of taxation from the wealthy to the middle class but to say they want to eliminate taxation for the wealth completely is a strawman.
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    They absolutely want Unions to cease to exsist.

    Unions are a main reason employees make headway on pay.

    Number two is absolutely true

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mott the Hoople View Post
    Actually, if he had eliminated his hyperbole and his misrepresentations he very well could have made all 15 points. For example point #1. Republicans do want to shift the burden of taxation from the wealthy to the middle class but to say they want to eliminate taxation for the wealth completely is a strawman.
    possibly, but as they stand they are strawmen and as i said earlier a fail

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mott the Hoople View Post
    Actually, if he had eliminated his hyperbole and his misrepresentations he very well could have made all 15 points. For example point #1. Republicans do want to shift the burden of taxation from the wealthy to the middle class but to say they want to eliminate taxation for the wealth completely is a strawman.

    Actually, I'm not so sure it is a strawman. The GOP's tax cuts target unearned income. They want to eliminate the inheritance tax and capital gains taxes entirely. They want to tax labor only and exempt capital. How many of the top 1% actually draw a salary, and what percentage of their total income does that represent?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mott the Hoople View Post
    Actually, if he had eliminated his hyperbole and his misrepresentations he very well could have made all 15 points. For example point #1. Republicans do want to shift the burden of taxation from the wealthy to the middle class but to say they want to eliminate taxation for the wealth completely is a strawman.
    That too is incorrect. Under the Republicans, the income tax burden on the top 50% INCREASED... not decreased. Thus, if they wanted to lower taxes on the wealthy as you claim... why did they instead raise their portion of the burden?

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    1. Flat or FAIR tax. Everyone should pay the same percentage.
    2. When the unions are more powerful than the company, then anti-trust laws should apply to them.
    3. More nukes, less kooks.
    4. Plain language disclosure and caveat emptor.
    5. Vouchers.
    6. Keep your pants on and your legs crossed; adoption.
    7. Civil unions, separate from the sanctity of traditional marriage.
    8. Communications with known terrorists and suspected foreign terrorists are not private.
    9. Peace through superior firepower.
    10. Education, free commerce and open markets are the key to high standards of living. Minimum wage laws increase unemployment.
    11. Simple rules for private insurers to ensure portability, high deductible policies, HSAs and increased personal responsibility.
    12. Increase immigration, requiring folks in three years to learn English, prove increasing job responsibility, stay out of jail and obtain recommendations from three natural born citizens from different cultural backgrounds.
    13-15. WTF?

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    At least seven of those are good things.
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