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    Quote Originally Posted by Topspin View Post
    thank god desh, let them keep digging.

    The republicans will be left with the NRA, and the kkk
    Top, you and I agree on a lot and disagree on a lot. However would you be so kind as to leave your mass generalizations out? You'd be better off as there are several groups aligned with the NRA that are firm gay rights supporters (the Pink Pistols for example).
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    Quote Originally Posted by Damocles View Post
    Morality is also not chosen by secular law.
    Correct, it is defined by the Bible, of which those laws are based.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Southern Man View Post
    Correct, it is defined by the Bible, of which those laws are based.
    No, it is defined by the Dhammapada...



    Morality is chosen, just as religion is chosen, and those laws cannot be based on the Bible, that would be an establishment of religion.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Damocles View Post
    No, it is defined by the Dhammapada...



    Morality is chosen, just as religion is chosen, and those laws cannot be based on the Bible, that would be an establishment of religion.
    Those laws are based on the Bible, and that's not establishment of a religion, but recognition of the authority of a higher power that gave us self-evident rights to begin with.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Southern Man View Post
    Those laws are based on the Bible, and that's not establishment of a religion, but recognition of the authority of a higher power that gave us self-evident rights to begin with.
    Those laws are not based on the bible. The laws that we have that are also in the bible have also been in the laws of numerous cultures.

    The comparison between homosexuality and pedophilia is just fear-mongering by the right-wing nutcases.

    There is no comparison. It is no more accurate than asking if allowing homosexuality will lead to slavery or murder. Both are illegal and immoral.

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    what part of the bible?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Southern Man View Post
    by Chuch Baldwin / July 14, 2000http://home.bluemarble.net/~heartcom...ualitynow.html

    Is this where we are going?
    No, it is not where we are going.

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    The Architecture of the SCOTUS:

    East pediment:


    Doors:

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    Quote Originally Posted by Southern Man View Post
    The Architecture of the SCOTUS:

    East pediment:


    Doors:
    Yes, there are biblical characters on the friezes of the SCOTUS.

    But if you think that proves anything, you are being dishonest.

    What else is shown, with the same emphasis as the biblical characters???

    In the same way that those you showed are displayed, they also display figures of other law givers. Such as Menes, Hammurabi, Lycurgus, Solon, Draco, Confucius, and Augustus. And on the opposite wall, you will see Justinian, Muhammad, John Marshall and Napoleon.

    So your claim only has merit if you cherry-pick your facts and ignore those that do not support your claim.

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    this gay issue is just one of the idiot ideas of the right.

    You are now distroying fany hope your party has of gettting the youth vote along with anyone who is gay and has a gay relative that they love.

    omne more nail in the R coffin.

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    Quote Originally Posted by evince View Post
    this gay issue is just one of the idiot ideas of the right.

    You are now distroying fany hope your party has of gettting the youth vote along with anyone who is gay and has a gay relative that they love.

    omne more nail in the R coffin.
    Most youth are not attracted by the assininity of gay zealotry.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Southern Man View Post
    Those laws are based on the Bible, and that's not establishment of a religion, but recognition of the authority of a higher power that gave us self-evident rights to begin with.
    If they were solely based on the Bible that would most certainly be establishing your religion as the basis of law, it would be theocracy first and a violation of the first amendment overall.

    Recognizing a generic Creator who gave us rights is not the same thing as basing laws on your religious dogma.
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    The youth of the US is overwhelmingly pro gay rights.

    Everyone knows someone who is gay and knows they are as normal as anyone.

    you are killing any chance of any real power for your party.

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    Quote Originally Posted by WinterBorn View Post
    Yes, there are biblical characters on the friezes of the SCOTUS.

    But if you think that proves anything, you are being dishonest.

    What else is shown, with the same emphasis as the biblical characters???

    In the same way that those you showed are displayed, they also display figures of other law givers. Such as Menes, Hammurabi, Lycurgus, Solon, Draco, Confucius, and Augustus. And on the opposite wall, you will see Justinian, Muhammad, John Marshall and Napoleon.

    So your claim only has merit if you cherry-pick your facts and ignore those that do not support your claim.
    Moses with tablets is in the exact center of the frieze, which due to its shape is also the largest, so I'd say he is emphasized the most. Also, since the image of the tablets are repeated on the front doors...

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    Quote Originally Posted by evince View Post
    this gay issue is just one of the idiot ideas of the right.

    You are now distroying fany hope your party has of gettting the youth vote along with anyone who is gay and has a gay relative that they love.

    omne more nail in the R coffin.
    Just one more group they are happy to piss off. Me, I'm pleased. I hope they try to roll with just fat old white dudes.

    Now that the country knows obama is not a scarey muslim terrorist that too will backfire on them.
    I'll be laughing at them for 8yrs.
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