Page 2 of 97 FirstFirst 1234561252 ... LastLast
Results 16 to 30 of 1444

Thread: Why homosexuality should be banned

  1. #16 | Top
    Join Date
    Jan 2008
    Posts
    39,053
    Thanks
    3,463
    Thanked 1,324 Times in 1,188 Posts
    Groans
    1,184
    Groaned 693 Times in 631 Posts

    Default

    Quote Originally Posted by Yurt View Post
    what part of the OP video do you find wrong?
    Pick an issue. I've debated them all before.

  2. #17 | Top
    Join Date
    Jan 2008
    Posts
    39,053
    Thanks
    3,463
    Thanked 1,324 Times in 1,188 Posts
    Groans
    1,184
    Groaned 693 Times in 631 Posts

    Default

    I'll tell you one thing Yurt that you have to agree on. Once you start debating the gay thing most folks here will flip out and get all hissy and shit.

  3. #18 | Top
    Join Date
    Mar 2008
    Posts
    47,970
    Thanks
    4,579
    Thanked 3,084 Times in 2,618 Posts
    Groans
    3,368
    Groaned 2,119 Times in 1,992 Posts

    Default

    Quote Originally Posted by Southern Man View Post
    Pick an issue. I've debated them all before.
    any issue in the OP vid....i pick any....so tell me which one you want to debate me on

    Quote Originally Posted by Southern Man View Post
    I'll tell you one thing Yurt that you have to agree on. Once you start debating the gay thing most folks here will flip out and get all hissy and shit.
    doesn't take away from the issue, that most libs are whiney....yeah....

  4. #19 | Top
    Join Date
    Jul 2006
    Location
    Colorado
    Posts
    85,117
    Thanks
    2,507
    Thanked 16,531 Times in 10,535 Posts
    Groans
    2
    Groaned 578 Times in 535 Posts
    Blog Entries
    5

    Default

    Quote Originally Posted by CaptBillyTheKid View Post
    Funny until my wife made a comment about how 'cute' the guy in the video is. Now he must be eliminated.
    Why? It will do her no good, he likes guys. I liked the second video better.
    Excellence is an art won by training and habituation. We do not act rightly because we have virtue or excellence, but rather we have those because we have acted rightly. We are what we repeatedly do. Excellence, then, is not an act but a habit.
    - -- Aristotle

    Believe nothing on the faith of traditions, even though they have been held in honor for many generations and in diverse places. Do not believe a thing because many people speak of it. Do not believe on the faith of the sages of the past. Do not believe what you yourself have imagined, persuading yourself that a God inspires you. Believe nothing on the sole authority of your masters and priests. After examination, believe what you yourself have tested and found to be reasonable, and conform your conduct thereto.
    - -- The Buddha

    It is the mark of an educated mind to be able to entertain a thought without accepting it.
    - -- Aristotle

  5. #20 | Top
    Join Date
    Jan 2008
    Posts
    39,053
    Thanks
    3,463
    Thanked 1,324 Times in 1,188 Posts
    Groans
    1,184
    Groaned 693 Times in 631 Posts

    Default

    Quote Originally Posted by Yurt View Post
    any issue in the OP vid....i pick any....so tell me which one you want to debate me on



    doesn't take away from the issue, that most libs are whiney....yeah....
    I thought I'd give you the option, but if you insist, take the first one, that homosexuality is unnatural.

    State the basis of your argument.

  6. #21 | Top
    WinterBorn Guest

    Default

    Quote Originally Posted by Southern Man View Post
    I thought I'd give you the option, but if you insist, take the first one, that homosexuality is unnatural.

    State the basis of your argument.
    Hmmm, since same sex coupling happens in numerous species, I think the "its unnatural" argument is bogus.

  7. #22 | Top
    WinterBorn Guest

    Default

    Quote Originally Posted by Damocles View Post
    Why? It will do her no good, he likes guys. I liked the second video better.
    The second video is good. I like the third video. Good speaker and makes excellent points.

  8. #23 | Top
    Join Date
    Jul 2006
    Location
    Colorado
    Posts
    85,117
    Thanks
    2,507
    Thanked 16,531 Times in 10,535 Posts
    Groans
    2
    Groaned 578 Times in 535 Posts
    Blog Entries
    5

    Default

    Quote Originally Posted by Southern Man View Post
    I thought I'd give you the option, but if you insist, take the first one, that homosexuality is unnatural.

    State the basis of your argument.
    "Unnatural" is simply not a standard of morality. It is unnatural to fly in an airplane, it is unnatural to fix your vision with glasses, to clothe yourself for warmth and ornament, to drive cars, to send people into space, use velcro, buy lotto tickets and about a billion other things we regularly do. It is unnatural to send signals through the air so that somebody can watch your pastor on the boob tube, it is unnatural to encase boobs in cloth that hold them up so they don't hang to women's knees before they are thirty. It's unnatural to use electricity to power servers and create the internet to communicate with others across the planet without leaving your house...

    Messageboards are unnatural... so many things people do are unnatural that making it the standard of what is "moral" would be absolutely stupid.
    Excellence is an art won by training and habituation. We do not act rightly because we have virtue or excellence, but rather we have those because we have acted rightly. We are what we repeatedly do. Excellence, then, is not an act but a habit.
    - -- Aristotle

    Believe nothing on the faith of traditions, even though they have been held in honor for many generations and in diverse places. Do not believe a thing because many people speak of it. Do not believe on the faith of the sages of the past. Do not believe what you yourself have imagined, persuading yourself that a God inspires you. Believe nothing on the sole authority of your masters and priests. After examination, believe what you yourself have tested and found to be reasonable, and conform your conduct thereto.
    - -- The Buddha

    It is the mark of an educated mind to be able to entertain a thought without accepting it.
    - -- Aristotle

  9. #24 | Top
    Join Date
    Jan 2008
    Posts
    39,053
    Thanks
    3,463
    Thanked 1,324 Times in 1,188 Posts
    Groans
    1,184
    Groaned 693 Times in 631 Posts

    Default

    Quote Originally Posted by Damocles View Post
    "Unnatural" is simply not a standard of morality. It is unnatural to fly in an airplane, it is unnatural to fix your vision with glasses, to clothe yourself for warmth and ornament, to drive cars, to send people into space, use velcro, buy lotto tickets and about a billion other things we regularly do. It is unnatural to send signals through the air so that somebody can watch your pastor on the boob tube, it is unnatural to encase boobs in cloth that hold them up so they don't hang to women's knees before they are thirty. It's unnatural to use electricity to power servers and create the internet to communicate with others across the planet without leaving your house...

    Messageboards are unnatural... so many things people do are unnatural that making it the standard of what is "moral" would be absolutely stupid.
    I'm not arguing that there is something wrong with unnatural. All I ask for is that homosexuals and their enablers admit that it is unnatural.

  10. #25 | Top
    Join Date
    Jul 2006
    Location
    Colorado
    Posts
    85,117
    Thanks
    2,507
    Thanked 16,531 Times in 10,535 Posts
    Groans
    2
    Groaned 578 Times in 535 Posts
    Blog Entries
    5

    Default

    Quote Originally Posted by Southern Man View Post
    I'm not arguing that there is something wrong with unnatural. All I ask for is that homosexuals and their enablers admit that it is unnatural.
    Define "unnatural" it is important that we are working with the same definitions if we begin a conversation on this issue. I don't want the target to continuously change because you want to desperately believe it is "unnatural" in some way.

    What is seriously "unnatural" is the capacity for the human to care so much about what others do that doesn't hurt them or effect them in any way.
    Excellence is an art won by training and habituation. We do not act rightly because we have virtue or excellence, but rather we have those because we have acted rightly. We are what we repeatedly do. Excellence, then, is not an act but a habit.
    - -- Aristotle

    Believe nothing on the faith of traditions, even though they have been held in honor for many generations and in diverse places. Do not believe a thing because many people speak of it. Do not believe on the faith of the sages of the past. Do not believe what you yourself have imagined, persuading yourself that a God inspires you. Believe nothing on the sole authority of your masters and priests. After examination, believe what you yourself have tested and found to be reasonable, and conform your conduct thereto.
    - -- The Buddha

    It is the mark of an educated mind to be able to entertain a thought without accepting it.
    - -- Aristotle

  11. #26 | Top
    Join Date
    Jan 2008
    Posts
    39,053
    Thanks
    3,463
    Thanked 1,324 Times in 1,188 Posts
    Groans
    1,184
    Groaned 693 Times in 631 Posts

    Default

    Quote Originally Posted by Damocles View Post
    Define "unnatural" it is important that we are working with the same definitions if we begin a conversation on this issue. I don't want the target to continuously change because you want to desperately believe it is "unnatural" in some way.

    What is seriously "unnatural" is the capacity for the human to care so much about what others do that doesn't hurt them or effect them in any way.
    You can look up the definition at m-w.com.

    Its not unnatural to care about the accurate use of language or about the impact on innocent children.

  12. #27 | Top
    Join Date
    Jul 2006
    Location
    Colorado
    Posts
    85,117
    Thanks
    2,507
    Thanked 16,531 Times in 10,535 Posts
    Groans
    2
    Groaned 578 Times in 535 Posts
    Blog Entries
    5

    Default

    Quote Originally Posted by Southern Man View Post
    You can look up the definition at m-w.com.

    Its not unnatural to care about the accurate use of language or about the impact on innocent children.
    No, I want you to provide the definition you wish to work with, it is your question.
    Excellence is an art won by training and habituation. We do not act rightly because we have virtue or excellence, but rather we have those because we have acted rightly. We are what we repeatedly do. Excellence, then, is not an act but a habit.
    - -- Aristotle

    Believe nothing on the faith of traditions, even though they have been held in honor for many generations and in diverse places. Do not believe a thing because many people speak of it. Do not believe on the faith of the sages of the past. Do not believe what you yourself have imagined, persuading yourself that a God inspires you. Believe nothing on the sole authority of your masters and priests. After examination, believe what you yourself have tested and found to be reasonable, and conform your conduct thereto.
    - -- The Buddha

    It is the mark of an educated mind to be able to entertain a thought without accepting it.
    - -- Aristotle

  13. #28 | Top
    Join Date
    Mar 2008
    Posts
    47,970
    Thanks
    4,579
    Thanked 3,084 Times in 2,618 Posts
    Groans
    3,368
    Groaned 2,119 Times in 1,992 Posts

    Default

    Quote Originally Posted by Southern Man View Post
    I'm not arguing that there is something wrong with unnatural. All I ask for is that homosexuals and their enablers admit that it is unnatural.
    so all things unnatural are bad?

  14. #29 | Top
    Join Date
    Apr 2009
    Posts
    74,838
    Thanks
    15,266
    Thanked 14,432 Times in 12,044 Posts
    Groans
    18,546
    Groaned 1,699 Times in 1,647 Posts
    Blog Entries
    6

    Default

    Quote Originally Posted by Damocles View Post
    "Unnatural" is simply not a standard of morality. It is unnatural to fly in an airplane, it is unnatural to fix your vision with glasses, to clothe yourself for warmth and ornament, to drive cars, to send people into space, use velcro, buy lotto tickets and about a billion other things we regularly do. It is unnatural to send signals through the air so that somebody can watch your pastor on the boob tube, it is unnatural to encase boobs in cloth that hold them up so they don't hang to women's knees before they are thirty. It's unnatural to use electricity to power servers and create the internet to communicate with others across the planet without leaving your house...

    Messageboards are unnatural... so many things people do are unnatural that making it the standard of what is "moral" would be absolutely stupid.

    "....it is unnatural to encase boobs in cloth that hold them up so they don't hang to women's knees before they are thirty..."
    If this is wrong, I don't want to be right.
    SEDITION: incitement of resistance to or insurrection against lawful authority.


  15. #30 | Top
    Join Date
    Jul 2006
    Location
    Mid-Atlantic State
    Posts
    26,917
    Thanks
    3,256
    Thanked 5,373 Times in 4,319 Posts
    Groans
    1,505
    Groaned 2,440 Times in 2,029 Posts

    Default

    The video is silly and funny, hardly a serious argument for condoning or condemning homosexuality....

    Un-natural?

    Completely subjective, therefore irrelevant....

    No religious support for ?

    A personal opinion, also irrelevant...

    Can't produce children?

    Absolutely true....

    Contagious?

    Hardly a serious observation...

    Adoption ?

    Untrue ... homo's can't adopt and raise children...

    Weird ?

    Again, subjective personal opinion, irrelevant...

    Male and female role models to raise children?

    Accepted belief as a better environment to rear children

    Unpopular ?

    Irrelevant...who cares if its "popular"


    And they don't have basic freedoms?

    Complete bullshit....life, liberty and pursuit of happiness,= basic freedoms...

    Right to marry?

    Its just a lie to claim that there isn't some entity, somewhere, that will perform some agreed upon ceremony, that ANY TWO ADULT people can claim that they are married in their own eyes and live as they see fit...any lawyer can make legal any agreement these folks want to enter into (A contract between them)concerning money, property, health decisions, etc.......
    BUT.....
    neither the State nor Religious organizations nor Corporations are obligated to recognize said 'marriage' or ANY marriage if they so desire, for there own reasons....

    So...its bullshit, strawman, irrelevant crap....

    Nobody cares what two people do in private, adult, consensual sex....
    Last edited by NOVA; 10-23-2009 at 08:34 PM.
    Put blame where it belongs
    ATF decided it could not regulate bump stocks during the Obama administration.
    It that time," the NRA wrote in a statement. "The NRA believes that devices designed to allow semiautomatic rifles to function like fully-automatic rifles should be subject to additional regulations."
    The ATF and Obama admin. ignored the NRA recommendations.


Similar Threads

  1. Canadian govt to pastor: Criticizing homosexuality now banned
    By Little-Acorn in forum Current Events Forum
    Replies: 6
    Last Post: 06-11-2008, 07:28 AM
  2. Compulsory Homosexuality...
    By Hermes Thoth in forum Off Topic Forum
    Replies: 18
    Last Post: 05-20-2007, 03:23 PM
  3. Banned?
    By AnyOldIron in forum Off Topic Forum
    Replies: 4
    Last Post: 07-28-2006, 06:30 PM
  4. Banned
    By toby in forum Off Topic Forum
    Replies: 0
    Last Post: 07-26-2006, 12:59 PM

Bookmarks

Posting Rules

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts
  •