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    Default 66% - Angry, 60% say NEITHER party has the answer...

    http://www.rasmussenreports.com/publ...ty_has_answers

    Tuesday 9/22/2009

    Sixty-six percent (66%) of voters nationwide say they’re at least somewhat angry about the current policies of the federal government. That figure includes 36% who are Very Angry.

    The latest Rasmussen Reports national telephone survey finds that only 30% are not angry about the government's policies, including 10% who are Not at All Angry

    Adding to the voter frustration is the fact that 60% believe neither Republican nor Democratic political leaders have an understanding of what is needed today.

    Among those who are Very Angry about government policies, 80% say that neither political party’s leaders have the answers.

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    Maybe I'm not in the "fringe" as much as I thought.
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    That is the roblem Damo it is not the fringe anymore. The anger and fear cheerleading talking heads are destroying our country.
    Bush doubled the debt from 5 trillion to 10 trillion.
    Proving tax cuts work!

    Bush asked for and signed for the TARP money.
    The Republican senate leader backed Bush on this.

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    Quote Originally Posted by uscitizen View Post
    That is the roblem Damo it is not the fringe anymore. The anger and fear cheerleading talking heads are destroying our country.
    no they aren't. they are expressing the sentiments felt by that very angry 36%. a HUGE difference, if you could only see it.
    A sad commentary on we, as a people, and our viewpoint of our freedom can be summed up like this. We have liberals and conservatives, Democrats and Republicans, yet those very people look at Constitutionalists as radical and extreme.................so those liberals and conservatives, Democrats and Republicans must believe that the constitution is radical and extreme.

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    And those who bask in the anger....
    Bush doubled the debt from 5 trillion to 10 trillion.
    Proving tax cuts work!

    Bush asked for and signed for the TARP money.
    The Republican senate leader backed Bush on this.

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    Quote Originally Posted by uscitizen View Post
    That is the roblem Damo it is not the fringe anymore. The anger and fear cheerleading talking heads are destroying our country.
    There's no doubt in my mind that you would have sided with the British in 1776.

    Like most liberals, you're a pussy.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tabasco View Post
    There's no doubt in my mind that you would have sided with the British in 1776.

    Like most liberals, you're a pussy.
    All conservatives sided with the British in 1776.

    forming a new country was pretty progressive.
    If you come to a fork in the road, see which one Dixie takes and take the other one.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Demwit View Post
    All conservatives sided with the British in 1776.

    forming a new country was pretty progressive.
    It was radical, not progressive. There is a difference.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Damocles View Post
    It was radical, not progressive. There is a difference.
    conservative in it's root form means to resist change.

    I stand on my statement.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Whomever View Post
    conservative in it's root form means to resist change.

    I stand on my statement.
    Your statement was incorrect. While it was not conservative, it was also not progressive. Revolution is by its nature radical.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Damocles View Post
    Your statement was incorrect. While it was not conservative, it was also not progressive. Revolution is by its nature radical.
    so radical action is a trait of conservatives? Not republicans of now, but true conservatives?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Whomever View Post
    so radical action is a trait of conservatives? Not republicans of now, but true conservatives?
    Radical action is a trait of either right or left-wing politics. You can see radicals who want "revolution" to "free" them from the "socialist" creep in current politics. You can see radicals who wanted revolution to free them from "Bush and his Nazi cronies"...

    Radical is not a right/left or conservative/progressive thing.

    The radicals today have pictures of Obama with a mustache, the radicals of two years ago held pictures of Bush with that same mustache.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Demwit View Post
    All conservatives sided with the British in 1776.
    Wrong! Even the classical conservatives in England, such as Edmund Burke, were supportive of the revolution. Furthermore, I might add that the classical liberals of the 18th, 19th, and early 20th centuries were very different from the so-called "liberals" (socialists) such as yourself. The writings of Thomas Jefferson are a world apart from the ideology of George McGovern.

    I am a classical liberal.

    There were no "progressives" around, because they were shot for treason.

    forming a new country was pretty progressive.
    Ha. You "progressives" are little more than appeasers and pushovers. There's no way in hell you would have fought the British. Not only do you hate guns, you're not willing to fight for anything - and you profess hatred for those who DO take a stand.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Damocles View Post
    Radical action is a trait of either right or left-wing politics. You can see radicals who want "revolution" to "free" them from the "socialist" creep in current politics. You can see radicals who wanted revolution to free them from "Bush and his Nazi cronies"...

    Radical is not a right/left or conservative/progressive thing.
    I still stand by my statement that those who supported the british diring the American revoloution were conservative by nature.
    Bush doubled the debt from 5 trillion to 10 trillion.
    Proving tax cuts work!

    Bush asked for and signed for the TARP money.
    The Republican senate leader backed Bush on this.

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    Quote Originally Posted by uscitizen View Post
    I still stand by my statement that those who supported the british diring the American revoloution were conservative by nature.
    I stand by my statement that you're so full of shit your eyes are brown.

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