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    Default H1N1 is a man made flu?

    For this to have been a natural [occurrence] it means an infected bird from North America would have had to infect pigs in Europe, then be re-infected by those same pigs, with an unlikely cross-species mutation that allowed the bird to carry it again, then that bird would have had to fly to Asia and infected pigs there, and those Asian pigs would then have had to mutate the virus once again (while preserving the European swine and bird elements) to become humanly transmittable, and then a human would have had to catch that virus from the Asian pigs — in Mexico!

    http://canadafreepress.com/index.php/article/14921
    Q: Senator Obama, would you take the same pledge? No tax increases on people under $250,000?

    OBAMA: I not only have pledged not to raise their taxes, I've been the first candidate in this race to specifically say I would cut their taxes.

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    It is Pig made, they are trying to take over the world from mankind.

    I might "root" for them. I am not sure they could mess things up worse than we have.
    Bush doubled the debt from 5 trillion to 10 trillion.
    Proving tax cuts work!

    Bush asked for and signed for the TARP money.
    The Republican senate leader backed Bush on this.

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    Sounds about right.

    Time to panic.
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    This is pretty creepy. Im thinking of buying some BAX but there are a lot of fingers point at them as the creators of this new flu.
    Q: Senator Obama, would you take the same pledge? No tax increases on people under $250,000?

    OBAMA: I not only have pledged not to raise their taxes, I've been the first candidate in this race to specifically say I would cut their taxes.

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    this is definitively good timing for the national healthcare debate.. Glad that obamas home town pharmaceutical is in on it the same way that rumsfields company was in on the bird flu.
    Q: Senator Obama, would you take the same pledge? No tax increases on people under $250,000?

    OBAMA: I not only have pledged not to raise their taxes, I've been the first candidate in this race to specifically say I would cut their taxes.

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    Quote Originally Posted by uscitizen View Post
    It is Pig made, they are trying to take over the world from mankind.

    I might "root" for them. I am not sure they could mess things up worse than we have.
    It was the pigs who introduced the nasal spray, 'Baconese' but they are not really professional in the drugs market. Just Hamateurs really.
    http://www.justplainpolitics.com/blog.php?u=237
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    Everything is better with bacon!
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    More seriously, the Hinie flu is weak stuff, there is nothing like drumming up an artificial crisis...
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    O_o

    Chap goes off the deep end...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Damocles View Post
    More seriously, the Hinie flu is weak stuff, there is nothing like drumming up an artificial crisis...
    It seems to be only slightly more deadly than the regular flu, true. Nothing like the avian flu that had massive fatality rates. That avian flue probably would've been so deadly it would've killed itself out though.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Watermark View Post
    It seems to be only slightly more deadly than the regular flu, true. Nothing like the avian flu that had massive fatality rates. That avian flue probably would've been so deadly it would've killed itself out though.
    It is actually quite a bit less deadly than the regular flu.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Damocles View Post
    It is actually quite a bit less deadly than the regular flu.
    It is quite a lot less deadly. Is it still a notifiable disease in the states?
    http://www.justplainpolitics.com/blog.php?u=237
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lowaicue View Post
    It is quite a lot less deadly. Is it still a notifiable disease in the states?
    They act like it is the second coming of small pox. Seriously, overkill be the name of the game.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Damocles View Post
    It is actually quite a bit less deadly than the regular flu.
    The regular flu has a fatality rate of about 0.1%. Swine flu 0.01%, from these statics: [ame]http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2009_flu_pandemic_by_country[/ame] .

    Kind of bizarre how it literally got weaker by mutating. Hearing Human-swine-avian flue just made it sound like the ultimate combination.

    The WHO apparently decides if something is a pandemic or not by how far it reaches, and doesn't have any other metric. By that, regular flu should be an even greater pandemic every year. They might want to revise the definition in the future, taking into account the diseases ability to spread and kill people. "Pandemic" strikes such a horrifying chord, and shouldn't be used so lightly.
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