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    45% Of Doctors Would Consider Quitting If Congress Passes Health Care Overhaul

    By TERRY JONES
    News Analysis by IBD * Posted Tuesday, September 15, 2009 4:30 PM PT

    Two of every three practicing physicians oppose the medical overhaul plan under consideration in Washington, and hundreds of thousands would think about shutting down their practices or retiring early if it were adopted, a new IBD/TIPP Poll has found.

    The poll contradicts the claims of not only the White House, but also doctors' own lobby — the powerful American Medical Association — both of which suggest the medical profession is behind the proposed overhaul.

    It also calls into question whether an overhaul is even doable; 72% of the doctors polled disagree with the administration's claim that the government can cover 47 million more people with better-quality care at lower cost.

    The IBD/TIPP Poll was conducted by mail the past two weeks, with 1,376 practicing physicians chosen randomly throughout the country taking part. Responses are still coming in, and doctors' positions on related topics — including the impact of an overhaul on senior care, medical school applications and drug development — will be covered later in this series.

    Major findings included:

    • Two-thirds, or 65%, of doctors say they oppose the proposed government expansion plan. This contradicts the administration's claims that doctors are part of an "unprecedented coalition" supporting a medical overhaul.

    It also differs with findings of a poll released Monday by National Public Radio that suggests a "majority of physicians want public and private insurance options," and clashes with media reports such as Tuesday's front-page story in the Los Angeles Times with the headline "Doctors Go For Obama's Reform."

    Nowhere in the Times story does it say doctors as a whole back the overhaul. It says only that the AMA — the "association representing the nation's physicians" and what "many still regard as the country's premier lobbying force" — is "lobbying and advertising to win public support for President Obama's sweeping plan."

    The AMA, in fact, represents approximately 18% of physicians and has been hit with a number of defections by members opposed to the AMA's support of Democrats' proposed health care overhaul.

    • Four of nine doctors, or 45%, said they "would consider leaving their practice or taking an early retirement" if Congress passes the plan the Democratic majority and White House have in mind.

    More than 800,000 doctors were practicing in 2006, the government says. Projecting the poll's finding onto that population, 360,000 doctors would consider quitting.

    More at link...

    http://www.ibdeditorials.com/IBDArti...37909690110379
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    Some doctors say they are going to "quit practicing" because of the cost of malpractice insurance, HMO policies, etc.

    This has gone on for years.

    How many actually follow through?

    Look at it this way;

    We need jobs in this country, and while young Americans are completing their medical education to fill the increased demand for heath care that reform will create, we will become the destination of choice for foreign-trained physicians.

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    So now Damo supports the union like actions of physicians? Don't do this or we will strike?
    Big deal we can get plenty more from India.
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    Quote Originally Posted by uscitizen View Post
    So now Damo supports the union like actions of physicians? Don't do this or we will strike?
    Big deal we can get plenty more from India.
    Wow, you are all funny today. Unintentionally so, but funny nevertheless...

    Anyway, I have never rejected unions as a whole, I think they have their place and time. I simply reject the union that is trying to force itself onto us as it has been less than useless for the people that work under its rather dubious "protection."

    However, this isn't a "union", they didn't ban together and make an announcement, it was a poll. They answered individually, not as a group. This is like rejecting the "union-like" activities of "voters".
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    As I said, some physicians have been threatening to quit because of (fill in the blank) for years, as in the examples below.

    http://www.redorbit.com/news/health/...quit_medicare/

    http://www.allamericanblogger.com/78...orm-abortions/

    Didn't happen then, did it?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Damocles View Post
    45% Of Doctors Would Consider Quitting If Congress Passes Health Care Overhaul

    By TERRY JONES
    News Analysis by IBD * Posted Tuesday, September 15, 2009 4:30 PM PT

    Two of every three practicing physicians oppose the medical overhaul plan under consideration in Washington, and hundreds of thousands would think about shutting down their practices or retiring early if it were adopted, a new IBD/TIPP Poll has found.

    The poll contradicts the claims of not only the White House, but also doctors' own lobby — the powerful American Medical Association — both of which suggest the medical profession is behind the proposed overhaul.

    It also calls into question whether an overhaul is even doable; 72% of the doctors polled disagree with the administration's claim that the government can cover 47 million more people with better-quality care at lower cost.

    The IBD/TIPP Poll was conducted by mail the past two weeks, with 1,376 practicing physicians chosen randomly throughout the country taking part. Responses are still coming in, and doctors' positions on related topics — including the impact of an overhaul on senior care, medical school applications and drug development — will be covered later in this series.

    Major findings included:

    • Two-thirds, or 65%, of doctors say they oppose the proposed government expansion plan. This contradicts the administration's claims that doctors are part of an "unprecedented coalition" supporting a medical overhaul.

    It also differs with findings of a poll released Monday by National Public Radio that suggests a "majority of physicians want public and private insurance options," and clashes with media reports such as Tuesday's front-page story in the Los Angeles Times with the headline "Doctors Go For Obama's Reform."

    Nowhere in the Times story does it say doctors as a whole back the overhaul. It says only that the AMA — the "association representing the nation's physicians" and what "many still regard as the country's premier lobbying force" — is "lobbying and advertising to win public support for President Obama's sweeping plan."

    The AMA, in fact, represents approximately 18% of physicians and has been hit with a number of defections by members opposed to the AMA's support of Democrats' proposed health care overhaul.

    • Four of nine doctors, or 45%, said they "would consider leaving their practice or taking an early retirement" if Congress passes the plan the Democratic majority and White House have in mind.

    More than 800,000 doctors were practicing in 2006, the government says. Projecting the poll's finding onto that population, 360,000 doctors would consider quitting.

    More at link...

    http://www.ibdeditorials.com/IBDArti...37909690110379
    When the NHS was founded many doctors and consultants threatened to quit, in practice very few did.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DNC View Post
    As I said, some physicians have been threatening to quit because of (fill in the blank) for years, as in the examples below.

    http://www.redorbit.com/news/health/...quit_medicare/

    http://www.allamericanblogger.com/78...orm-abortions/

    Didn't happen then, did it?
    Many doctors have stopped practicing due to being forced into defense medicine postures. It was the reason my mother strongly suggested I not enter the field of medicine.

    It is foolish to ignore the fact that 71% answered in the negative when asked if they support this legislation and that many may leave the profession. When 1/6 of the economy is at stake it becomes important indeed.
    Excellence is an art won by training and habituation. We do not act rightly because we have virtue or excellence, but rather we have those because we have acted rightly. We are what we repeatedly do. Excellence, then, is not an act but a habit.
    - -- Aristotle

    Believe nothing on the faith of traditions, even though they have been held in honor for many generations and in diverse places. Do not believe a thing because many people speak of it. Do not believe on the faith of the sages of the past. Do not believe what you yourself have imagined, persuading yourself that a God inspires you. Believe nothing on the sole authority of your masters and priests. After examination, believe what you yourself have tested and found to be reasonable, and conform your conduct thereto.
    - -- The Buddha

    It is the mark of an educated mind to be able to entertain a thought without accepting it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by tom prendergast View Post
    When the NHS was founded many doctors and consultants threatened to quit, in practice very few did.
    These Canadian docs threatened to quit as well. What did President Obama have to do with that?

    http://www.cbc.ca/canada/story/2006/...tors-quit.html

    Note: Stand by for a weak attempt to link Canadian health care with US proposals. You have been warned!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Damocles View Post
    My mother strongly suggested I not enter the field of medicine.
    Maybe she knew you couldn't cut it as a surgeon.

    Or perhaps she sensed that you lack the patience to be a doctor.

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    lol @ dnc rep gone up over 1500 points in one day....more proof he is a troll and apparently one with mod friends

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    Quote Originally Posted by DNC View Post
    Maybe she knew you couldn't cut it as a surgeon.

    Or perhaps she sensed that you lack the patience to be a doctor.
    Both would be incorrect. Patience I have in abundance, and the capacity to learn and apply what I know.

    What she warned against was the increasing dissatisfaction of those who practice, as she does.
    Excellence is an art won by training and habituation. We do not act rightly because we have virtue or excellence, but rather we have those because we have acted rightly. We are what we repeatedly do. Excellence, then, is not an act but a habit.
    - -- Aristotle

    Believe nothing on the faith of traditions, even though they have been held in honor for many generations and in diverse places. Do not believe a thing because many people speak of it. Do not believe on the faith of the sages of the past. Do not believe what you yourself have imagined, persuading yourself that a God inspires you. Believe nothing on the sole authority of your masters and priests. After examination, believe what you yourself have tested and found to be reasonable, and conform your conduct thereto.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Damocles View Post
    What she warned against was the increasing dissatisfaction of those who practice, as she does.
    Tell her to keep practicing, and sooner or later she'll get it right.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Yurt View Post
    lol @ dnc rep gone up over 1500 points in one day....more proof he is a troll and apparently one with mod friends
    Probably sucked Grind's dick.
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    Duncy, did you swallow or spit?
    Quote Originally Posted by wanderingbear View Post
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