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    Default The quest for knowledge.

    Will one of the more erudite members of the right wing please explain to me, a simple Brit, why you are against your president's health care plan.
    In your answer please refrain from using the words:
    Socialist/ism, fascist/ism, Kenya(n).
    Try to make your answers sensible and without bad language and insult. D'you think you could do that?
    For the moment I am not interested in the centre or left of centre view.
    http://www.justplainpolitics.com/blog.php?u=237
    If you feel so inclined a comment would be appreciated.

    Respect a believers right to believe, but they should damn well repect our right to challenge such utterly illogical notions.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Lowaicue View Post
    Will one of the more erudite members of the right wing please explain to me, a simple Brit, why you are against your president's health care plan.
    In your answer please refrain from using the words:
    Socialist/ism, fascist/ism, Kenya(n).
    Try to make your answers sensible and without bad language and insult. D'you think you could do that?
    For the moment I am not interested in the centre or left of centre view.
    Big government afficionados either don't understand that price fixing, wage fixing etc. WILL CAUSE RATIONING, or they know and are cynically implementing the population control/ eugenics directives of UNESCO.

    The worst charactered people rise to the top of modern statist bureaucracies. Giving them power over life and death merely extends their power over our lives, which is a bad idea considering the nihilism of their ruling ideology.

    Why should we trust people who believe humans are evil and should be eliminated from earth, to save the Earth Mother Spirit?

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    Quote Originally Posted by AssHatZombie View Post
    Big government afficionados either don't understand that price fixing, wage fixing etc. WILL CAUSE RATIONING, or they know and are cynically implementing the population control/ eugenics directives of UNESCO.

    The worst charactered people rise to the top of modern statist bureaucracies. Giving them power over life and death merely extends their power over our lives, which is a bad idea considering the nihilism of their ruling ideology.

    Why should we trust people who believe humans are evil and should be eliminated from earth, to save the Earth Mother Spirit?
    Thank you.
    Can you supply evidence to support your contentions?
    http://www.justplainpolitics.com/blog.php?u=237
    If you feel so inclined a comment would be appreciated.

    Respect a believers right to believe, but they should damn well repect our right to challenge such utterly illogical notions.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Lowaicue View Post
    Thank you.
    Can you supply evidence to support your contentions?
    Do you deny unesco directives advocate population control and eugenics measures?

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    Google "John Holdren population control"

    or "green movement eugenics"

    The green movement is openly anti-human.

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    Quote Originally Posted by AssHatZombie View Post
    Do you deny unesco directives advocate population control and eugenics measures?
    I am not denying nor confirming anything at this time. Just trying to understand.
    http://www.justplainpolitics.com/blog.php?u=237
    If you feel so inclined a comment would be appreciated.

    Respect a believers right to believe, but they should damn well repect our right to challenge such utterly illogical notions.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Lowaicue View Post
    I am not denying nor confirming anything at this time. Just trying to understand.
    Then I shan't waste my time spoonfeeding you. Go educate yourself.

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    Quote Originally Posted by AssHatZombie View Post
    Google "John Holdren population control"

    or "green movement eugenics"

    The green movement is openly anti-human.
    That being the case I suggest people get out there and do some serious lovin' before that's outlawed.
    "May your reality be as pleasant as mine."

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    Quote Originally Posted by apple0154 View Post
    That being the case I suggest people get out there and do some serious lovin' before that's outlawed.
    Yes. make love, not Green Restrictions on land usage.

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    Quote Originally Posted by AssHatZombie View Post
    Yes. make love, not Green Restrictions on land usage.
    LOL awesome!

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    My problem is wasteful spending of tax dollars in our medical system already. Another program would only create more. Plus the mandatory healthcare is unconstitutional and goes against everything our government and country once stood for.
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    Quote Originally Posted by AssHatZombie View Post
    Then I shan't waste my time spoonfeeding you. Go educate yourself.
    Since I seek opinions of others your suggestion hold little sense.
    After approximately one and a half hours no right winger here has bothered to respond. I thought for a moment that you had but your comment is a little childish, dont you think?

    Let me extend my question.

    Is the right's stand against the health care plan based upon

    a) a dislike if your presidents race or colour? or
    b) the fear or dislike of big government? or
    c) the dislike or fear of socialism?
    d) the fear of losing the freedoms for which your nation has struggled since its inception?
    e) something else.
    f) all of the above.

    Please be prepared to support you contentions. This is a genuine desire to understand a question that bothers many people.
    http://www.justplainpolitics.com/blog.php?u=237
    If you feel so inclined a comment would be appreciated.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CaptBillyTheKid View Post
    My problem is wasteful spending of tax dollars in our medical system already. Another program would only create more. Plus the mandatory healthcare is unconstitutional and goes against everything our government and country once stood for.
    OK. I thank you for that response. Can you tell me more about the wasteful spending of tax dollars as it applies to the proposed health care reform? Does the constitution of the US positively state that to which you allude? When you say - quote - "everything our government and country once stood for" can you give examples of how those factors are being or will be destroyed by the healthcare reform?

    No trick questions here. A dumb foreigner is trying to get his head round this.
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    Quote Originally Posted by tinfoil View Post
    LOL awesome!
    Thank you.
    Can you tell me how the health care reforms are likely to affect land usage? Thanks
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lowaicue View Post
    OK. I thank you for that response. Can you tell me more about the wasteful spending of tax dollars as it applies to the proposed health care reform? Does the constitution of the US positively state that to which you allude? When you say - quote - "everything our government and country once stood for" can you give examples of how those factors are being or will be destroyed by the healthcare reform?

    No trick questions here. A dumb foreigner is trying to get his head round this.
    Waste occurs at all levels of government. This has become accepted to the point where it is unremarkable. While I cannot give any specific examples, I can point to my own dealings with government run helathcare: The military.

    Those without firsthand experience would say we give our armed forces the best care imaginable. But this is hardly the case. In my own BAS (Battalion Aid Station, the equivelent of your local doctors office) I have had to wait for weeks to be seen for significant problems, only to be pushed aside with Aleve and the advice to "drink more water". I cannot say for certain this is the way a government run healthcare system would turn out. But even the possibility is enough to make me against it.

    As for the constitutional angle, mandating that all citizens have health insurance violates the 9th and 10th amendments of our constitution and one of founding ideals of personal freedom. Our founding fathers were all very skeptical of big government and rightly so. They naturally wanted to have as little government involvment in their personal lives as possible.
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